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#271347 04/12/14 05:21 PM 04/12/14 05:21 PM |
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Posts: 858 Victoria Australia | dummy fitting the new ply decks.... trying my best to get an interesting and eye appealing grain to show off once the decks are clear-coated Yar, & this ere post be done without a sin'le drop o' rum passin' me lips
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#271348 04/12/14 05:31 PM 04/12/14 05:31 PM |
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Posts: 858 Victoria Australia | Yesterday (Saturday) became resin-day, set in the new bridal plates, re glue the 2 forward most foams that were floating around in the hulls, brush a thin coat of resin over the other foams & add a 40mm wide strip of 50gsm cloth over the ply stringer supports, set the new stringers in place, cut more 40gsm cloth that is then glued to the underside of the decks.... & fit decks.... Flicked the jug on at midnight, make a coffee, & promptly fall asleep in the chair..... long day 5 days to Lake Bolac Easter Regatta..... pressure is on !!! Yar, & this ere post be done without a sin'le drop o' rum passin' me lips
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#271509 04/16/14 04:22 PM 04/16/14 04:22 PM |
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Posts: 858 Victoria Australia | yesterday morning..... outside "drying".... Clear went on 'late last night'... I couldn't mask the green off and spray the clear on, the green hasn't dried enough to take the masking tape so I had to brush the clear on. It's not pretty but its sealed and will do for Lake Bolac's easter regatta Yar, & this ere post be done without a sin'le drop o' rum passin' me lips
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#272289 05/10/14 07:30 PM 05/10/14 07:30 PM |
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Posts: 858 Victoria Australia | Race 1 at Lake Bolac was ugly, Strong winds saw most not even bothering to make the starting line even after the start most of those that did start soon retired..... only 5 of us finished race 1 A few hundred meters from the finish line I had an opps....a broken ruddercase resulted in an unexpected capsize,I wasn't that far behind Harry at the time but the high winds and busted rudder case saw me limp home with only one rudder in the water whilst the other dangled at an odd horizontal angle out the back. Back on land some quick repairs were done, this was taken after those repairs but you can still see some of the resulting damage..... Flaring of the alloy at the hinge bolt The additional plate that's pop-riveted at the rear of the centre arm and obviously the damage to the top of the timber rudder blade itself The hinge bolt was belted back straight enough to actually work again Yar, & this ere post be done without a sin'le drop o' rum passin' me lips
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#272293 05/10/14 07:45 PM 05/10/14 07:45 PM |
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Posts: 858 Victoria Australia | This has been an ongoing issue since day one.... Initally I was sheering the bolts that held the bottom pintels in place, so I simply added a backing plate to the inside of the transoms and this did for a while work..... then it started to happen again, the bolts were often loose after a single race and a simple half a turn sorted it, but eventually I started to sheer bolts again. Next step was to upsize the bolts and this stopped the pintel issue instantly but that's about the time I saw the rivets being stretched and becoming loose. In high winds the problem was worse, a single race would mean atleast 2 rivets being lost per rudder case, ultimately at Lake Bolac in the very strong winds we had the 3rd rivet failure which resulted in the previous pics. time for an upgrade of this Yar, & this ere post be done without a sin'le drop o' rum passin' me lips
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#272297 05/10/14 09:41 PM 05/10/14 09:41 PM |
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Posts: 416 | Are they ally rivets if so swap them stainless, Alloy will sheer or corrode the heads off the rivets . My opinion use alloy block and shape them and weld it into the arm.
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#272298 05/10/14 10:19 PM 05/10/14 10:19 PM |
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Posts: 858 Victoria Australia | bit concerned about using stainless rivets, whilst they wont corrode or sheer off under the load they will place that load into the case arms..... that may damage the cases where the rivets are. I did initially toy with the idea of an alloy plate or an alloy block at that point but I've sen a few damaged cases with that system and that's why I went with the stainless plate. Hopefully the longer plate will help in spreading the load further along the case's length and if needed I can "upgrade" to the stainless rivets. The top section will be tig-welded along the joins of the 2 outer curved parts to the centre arm..... when I get a new bottle of argon Whilst the cases have done well so far I think for peace of mind it will be better welded. Yar, & this ere post be done without a sin'le drop o' rum passin' me lips
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#272303 05/11/14 06:28 PM 05/11/14 06:28 PM |
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Posts: 76 | I think Matts right about the alloy rivets, however I would go for Monel rivets. I've always used Monel, easier to work with than Stainless, in terms of, having to replace (easier to drill out)
I've had my boxes and blades since 1993, no problems with loads or the alloy block causing any damage. However, your rudder appears to be getting damaged by the stainless plate when locked down.
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#272308 05/12/14 04:13 AM 05/12/14 04:13 AM |
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Posts: 858 Victoria Australia | I'll give the Monel rivets a try ...... And I'm aware of the 'cut' in the rudders from the s/steel plate, I did originally intend to drill a 1/2inch hole and insert an alloy rod into the hole and the tap a thread in the rod ..... The idea was to then add a small bolt to set the blade against..... I haven't got to that yet, sailing it sort of took over It's a modification I'll do over the winter break, along with replacing the main decks, there's a few other changes I'm going to try as well. Yar, & this ere post be done without a sin'le drop o' rum passin' me lips
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