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#124756 - 11/26/07 12:36 PM This one is for the kids. *****
phill Offline
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I've been meaning to complete the Blade 12 design for some time. I started the
design back in December of 2003 but never quite managed to finish it off.
The resurgence of interest in a very young kids boat, together with the shabby way
in which the multihull fraternity have been treated regarding the Olympics got me
fired up to get back to the design and follow it through until I have one on the water.

My idea was to design a craft for the very young to get kids into cats from the
beginning rather than lose them to the monohull club. I figured such a craft has to be
very simple and easy to control, inexpensive, lightweight, and can be rigged in less time
than it would take to rig a Laser.

The Blade 12 has a modern hull shape and should it be home built will employ a building
method different to that used in building the Blade F16. That is too time consuming
for this type of boat.
This new method should allow the boat to be built in less time than it would take to build
a similar chined craft.

The absolute minimum of fittings and the ease in which all components can be either obtained
or built up should make this craft not only cheap, convenient but also very accessible to the
average family.
The most complex part of the boat is the system to support the mast.
To make, it requires 3 weld joints, drill, hacksaw and a hammer. When the boat is de-beamed
all you do is undo the bolt in the centre of the rear beam and the mast support and beam fold up.
Undo 2 more bolts and it comes apart.

The scale model tests that I have done along with some calculations indicate it will work.
Having said that the only way to be sure is to build it and demonstrate.

I hope to commence the prototyping at the beginning of January.

Anyhow, rather than write an epic that no one will read I'll post some rendering of the craft
in several configurations. Like they say. a picture is worth a thousand words.


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Edited by phill (11/26/07 12:37 PM)
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#124757 - 11/26/07 12:39 PM Re: This one is for the kids. [Re: phill]
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In this rendering you see the boat in the beginners configuration.
Here it has spade rudders & skegs. These allow the boat to be sailed in water the kids can
easily stand up in to help aid their confidence and keep them out of trouble.

With the skegs, rudders and mainsheet remaining on the boat all you need to do is slip
the mast into the sail pocket, stand the mast and then thread the boom through 4 webbing loops,
(Tack, front mainsheet block, rear mainsheet block and clew) and you are ready to go sailing.


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Edited by phill (11/26/07 12:40 PM)
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#124758 - 11/26/07 12:43 PM Re: This one is for the kids. [Re: phill]
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As the youngster gain more confidence and is looking for more performance the skegs come
off and the deeper rudders go on.
From my past experience with this hull shape in the conditions most likely to be used it will
tack nearly as well as a mono and lose hardly any speed as it does.


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Edited by phill (11/26/07 12:43 PM)
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#124759 - 11/26/07 12:45 PM Re: This one is for the kids. [Re: phill]
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When I build a prototype I will build it with removable skegs and test it thoroughly with
skegs and c/bs both with deep rudders. The purpose of this testing will be to quantify the
difference in performance and handling between the two. I will then decide if the difference
in performance is worth the additional cost of manufacturing hulls with centrecases and then
manufacturing centre boards. As the finished craft would be much cheaper with skegs.
There is little point in making this decisions without first getting the data to ensure it
is an informed one.


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Edited by phill (11/26/07 12:46 PM)
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#124760 - 11/26/07 12:48 PM Re: This one is for the kids. [Re: phill]
phill Offline
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I am confident in every aspect of this design. The only area that will benefit from
testing apart from the skeg/cb issue is the most appropriate mast tubing selection.
There are several criteria that must be met in order for the mast to meet all the perceived
needs.
Finally I have to thank Florin for offerring to help turn my computer models into something more presentable.
He has done a brilliant job.

Enough talking, it's time to put down the keyboard and pick up some tools and make it happen.
I will start January 1 and post updates on my web site from time to time.


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Edited by phill (11/26/07 01:03 PM)
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#124761 - 11/26/07 01:14 PM Re: This one is for the kids. [Re: phill]
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wow! great pics, as you say a thousand words

how would it compare to the old hobie 12 and current bravo in terms of performance?
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#124762 - 11/26/07 02:07 PM Re: This one is for the kids. [Re: phill]
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Wow!! That's too good for kids. I want one. Ed
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#124763 - 11/26/07 02:15 PM Re: This one is for the kids. [Re: erice]
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Quote:

wow! great pics, as you say a thousand words

how would it compare to the old hobie 12 and current bravo in terms of performance?




You can't be serious.

Phil, that looks spectacular!
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#124764 - 11/26/07 03:17 PM Re: This one is for the kids. [Re: Jake]
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Beautiful boat, my 8 yo is learning the H14 right now, and races Opti green fleet, but he is a die hard cat fan(Im so proud!), maybe this type of craft(High performing easy to use boat)will be the ticket for all of our kids. Sully's Hobie 14


Edited by dave mosley (11/26/07 05:10 PM)
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#124765 - 11/26/07 04:21 PM Re: This one is for the kids. [Re: dave mosley]
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Oh my Phil,
This is absolutely FANTASTIC!! Honestly, I think if you can find a permanent builder for the boat, this class may take off. You should offer options as to home building or buying from a builder. Also, I know this may be a bit off topic, but I was looking through a Harken catalogue, and noticed they had a diagram of a beachcat that showed parts used. It was odd however that in this diagram, the cat's mainsheet system was behind the tiller crossbar. It appeared as though the tiller arms were longer, and the tiller crossbar simply was in front of the traveler tack with the tiller extension attached. This appears to be much more simpler rather than passing the tiller behind the mainsheet blocks every tack/jibe. Perhaps this could be a feature on the F12 due to its ease of use?

Well, anyways, I am very excited to see that you are going forward with this great idea and I can't wait to follow your progress. What is the website this will be posted on by the way?
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