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#142506 - 05/08/08 04:29 PM Aqua Cat 12.5 and 14 - any good?
dsteinke Offline
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I am a parent looking at buying a used small catamaran for lake sailing or ocean bay sailing (1 foot max chop) for my kids. I need something that's light (hopefully 250 lbs max). There are Aqua Cat 12.5 and Aqua Cat 14 catamarans by American Sail, and a Hobie Cat wave for sale locally. Has anyone ever sailed these boats? How do they hold up? Tippy? Sailing in high/low winds?

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#142507 - 05/08/08 05:41 PM Re: Aqua Cat 12.5 and 14 - any good? [Re: dsteinke]
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I can tell you the Hobie Waves are great boats; easy to sail, very stable, and virtually indestructible. They can easily take 2 adults and 3 or 4 kids at once. They like high winds, but are kind of slow in low winds. They tend to be pricey, even used; because people don't often re-sell them. You can get lots of info about them here and on the HobieCat.com forums.

I've never sailed an Aqua Cat, so someone else will have to tell you about those boats.

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#142508 - 05/08/08 07:53 PM Re: Aqua Cat 12.5 and 14 - any good? [Re: dsteinke]
ccat Offline
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Aqua Cat = floating lawn furniture. They actually don't sail too badly for what they are, probably lighter than a Wave

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#142509 - 05/08/08 08:14 PM Re: Aqua Cat 12.5 and 14 - any good? [Re: dsteinke]
Mary Offline
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I think an Aqua Cat would be a great boat for kids.

Here are two links, one to American Sail, which manufactures the boat, and you can learn more there about both of the Aqua Cat models. And the other link is to a magazine article.

www.americansail.com/
http://www.sailingonline.com/fullby0201.html

Personally, I recommend the Hobie Wave, but you could have a lot of fun with the Aqua Cat, too. And it is probably lighter weight.

As with any cat, follow the advice that has been given on this forum to check for soft hulls and other problems. They started making Aqua Cats 48 years ago, so some of them are ancient. On the other hand, they are still making and selling them, so those could be relatively young boats.

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#142510 - 05/08/08 11:37 PM Re: Aqua Cat 12.5 and 14 - any good? [Re: Mary]
Mugrace72 Offline
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<<<<As with any cat, follow the advice that has been given on this forum to check for soft hulls and other problems. They started making Aqua Cats 48 years ago, so some of them are ancient. On the other hand, they are still making and selling them, so those could be relatively young boats>>>>>

We used to joke about Aqua Cats with their balls on the top. However, if they are still in business that says it all. They must be pretty good and certainly kid friendly.

Even Hobies have balls now!

Just don't pay too much!

Jack
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#142511 - 05/09/08 06:45 PM Re: Aqua Cat 12.5 and 14 - any good? [Re: Mugrace72]
dsteinke Offline
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Has anyone actually sailed an Aqua Cat? The Aqua Cat 12.5 has dagger boards and weighs 50 lbs less than the Hobie Wave. When I test drove the Wave, it seemed to get pushed sideways over the water by the wind. The hulls didn't seem to cut into the water very well.

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#142512 - 05/09/08 06:59 PM Re: Aqua Cat 12.5 and 14 - any good? [Re: dsteinke]
IndyWave Offline
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If you get a Wave, add a tiller extension so you can sit farther forward. That will help it cut into the water better. With the new short tiller arms, you tend to sit too far back and the bows stick up, catching the wind. My performance improved significantly when I added the extension, allowing me to sit up on the front seat pads. Only move back enough to keep the lee bow from diving in high winds.
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#142513 - 05/09/08 08:21 PM Re: Aqua Cat 12.5 and 14 - any good? [Re: IndyWave]
Mary Offline
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Quote:

If you get a Wave, add a tiller extension so you can sit farther forward. That will help it cut into the water better. With the new short tiller arms, you tend to sit too far back and the bows stick up, catching the wind. My performance improved significantly when I added the extension, allowing me to sit up on the front seat pads. Only move back enough to keep the lee bow from diving in high winds.




How do you know your performance improved significantly?

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#142514 - 05/09/08 09:11 PM Re: Aqua Cat 12.5 and 14 - any good? [Re: Mary]
IndyWave Offline
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Well, I've been reading "Catamaran Racing for the 90's" and it says so.

Actually, I can feel the boat accelerate as I move up and get the sterns out of the water (and the gurgling stops). Also, it does point better with the bow tips digging in more, helping the skegs make it go straighter upwind.

Granted, this is light to medium winds, and I weigh a shade over 200; so in heavier winds or with lighter cargo, the difference may not be as noticeable.
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#142515 - 05/09/08 09:17 PM Re: Aqua Cat 12.5 and 14 - any good? [Re: IndyWave]
Mary Offline
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Well, you can find out if you are racing this weekend in the Wave MidWest Championships in Indianapolis.

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