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#149958 - 07/28/08 03:16 PM Re: New Draft rule [Re: Jalani]
Gato addict Registered: 11/06/06 Posts: 432 Loc: Finland	It seems that we killed the discussion once again by doing the things far to serious... Still the F12 is for having fun, and most of the cats will be uswed to play around in the clubs like the Opti. Let's keep it at that, we make the rules simple. To hell with the winners, they don't play fair game anymore. So, the A-class rules seems simple to me... _________________________ http://www.gust.ax
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#149959 - 07/28/08 09:39 PM Re: New Draft rule [Re: Gato]
Scarecrow old hand Registered: 07/05/06 Posts: 898 Loc: Melbourne, Australia.	3rd draft is on its way, but I'm rather busy so may take some time. Don't worry Gato, there is another boat about to start in your backyard. _________________________ www.ctmd.com.au
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#149960 - 07/28/08 11:11 PM Re: New Draft rule [Re: Gato]
JeffS old hand Registered: 05/25/06 Posts: 1013 Loc: Kingston SE South Australia	I feel I've had my say Gato so now its just a matter of locking in the rules so people know what theyre building. regards _________________________ Jeff Southall Nacra 5.8 1626 Ram Raider Mosquito 707 Arrow 1576 Arafura Cadet 1375
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#149961 - 07/28/08 11:12 PM Re: New Draft rule [Re: Gato]
ncik old hand Registered: 10/18/05 Posts: 951 Loc: Brisbane, Queensland, Australi...	Quote: ...like the Opti. Have you read the Opti rules? They are crazy complicated, right down to construction laminate details. Sometimes the simplest rules create the most complicated classes and the goal of a simple class requires the most complicated rules. On that note, may I suggest another possible addition to the rules. A clause along the lines of "If it is not stated in these rules it is allowed/disallowed." _________________________ 1727 Gero http://ncik-gero.blogspot.com/
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#149962 - 07/28/08 11:56 PM Re: New Draft rule [Re: ncik]
Luiz veteran Registered: 08/24/01 Posts: 1301 Loc: Asuncion, Paraguay	Quote: Have you read the Opti rules? They are crazy complicated, right down to construction laminate details. Sometimes the simplest rules create the most complicated classes and the goal of a simple class requires the most complicated rules. On that note, may I suggest another possible addition to the rules. A clause along the lines of "If it is not stated in these rules it is allowed/disallowed." The initial Optimist rules were simple and lasted for decades. They were rewritten with a high degree of detail when it became the (very strict) "International One Design Optimist". The text is strict because parents are compulsive when it comes to buying speed for their kids. Today's F12 is a box rule, so there's no need to complicate anything and the rules can be very simple. Still, we should learn from the Optimist and try to eliminate possible loopholes. In view of this I prefer the suggested clause to be restrictive: "If it is not stated in these rules it is not allowed". _________________________ Luiz
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#149963 - 07/29/08 12:21 AM Re: New Draft rule [Re: Luiz]
Scarecrow old hand Registered: 07/05/06 Posts: 898 Loc: Melbourne, Australia.	Does anyone want to volunteer for the re-write? I'm happy to email the word document. _________________________ www.ctmd.com.au
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#149964 - 07/29/08 09:51 AM Re: New Draft rule [Re: Gato]
Wouter Carpal Tunnel Registered: 06/16/01 Posts: 9582 Loc: North-West Europe	I think we have made valuable headway with the current draft and I hate to see all that be thrown away by looking at another ruleset like the A-class. We have already progressed beyond the point where the A-class is in the way of class rules and in my opinion that is a good thing. I would volunteer to do the draft writing Scarecrow, but we know what happened the last 3 times when I was responsible for that. The biggest advantage you provide is that no-one has a fixed mind about yout persona yet and that is huge benefit at this time. However, if help is much needed then I can do some ghost writing for you. Wouter _________________________ Wouter Hijink Formula 16 NED 243 (one-off; homebuild) The Netherlands
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#149965 - 07/29/08 10:59 AM Re: New Draft rule [Re: Wouter]
Scarecrow old hand Registered: 07/05/06 Posts: 898 Loc: Melbourne, Australia.	Wouter its on its way. There is no need for people to get emotional. I believe if you leave the content but fix the wording everyone will be happy. _________________________ www.ctmd.com.au
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#149966 - 07/29/08 01:07 PM Re: New Draft rule [Re: Scarecrow]
Wouter Carpal Tunnel Registered: 06/16/01 Posts: 9582 Loc: North-West Europe	Alright ! Personally, I really like this F12 setup (and always have, since 2002) and I think it is a real pitty that I simply don't have any spare resources like money that I can invest in it. I got some spare time though so that'll invest ! Wouter _________________________ Wouter Hijink Formula 16 NED 243 (one-off; homebuild) The Netherlands
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#149967 - 09/07/08 07:42 PM Re: New Draft rule [Re: Wouter]
Gato addict Registered: 11/06/06 Posts: 432 Loc: Finland	It's about one month since last, any news? _________________________ http://www.gust.ax
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