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Re: Evolution of the soft shackle [Re: pepin] #211447
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Well, I finally got around to making some jib bridles based on Pepin's design:
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This one is sized for a Flying Scot (heresy, I know) which is a growing fleet in my area. I haven' really changed much. I put in a triple brummel in the center eye (so it won't slip no matter which ends you pull), a locking brummel at the button (so it won't slip either), and used a chinese button knot.

Thanks for the idea!
Eric

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Why not just tie the blocks and use the loop/knot arrangement at the jib? Only one atachment point. I have been doing this for 16 years. Never had it come apart, easy to hook up. It can be done with a few knots and no splicing.


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Originally Posted by Jeff_Bowers
Why not just tie the blocks and use the loop/knot arrangement at the jib? Only one atachment point. I have been doing this for 16 years. Never had it come apart, easy to hook up. It can be done with a few knots and no splicing.


But is it sexy?


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Originally Posted by Jake
Originally Posted by Jeff_Bowers
Why not just tie the blocks and use the loop/knot arrangement at the jib? Only one atachment point. I have been doing this for 16 years. Never had it come apart, easy to hook up. It can be done with a few knots and no splicing.



But is it sexy?



I just made mine like Jeff suggested but with splices onto the blocks. I think it's pretty sexy smile. was thinking about going into business selling jib tails on the beach smile but i gotta learn how to make that button knot

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Originally Posted by Jeff_Bowers
Why not just tie the blocks and use the loop/knot arrangement at the jib?

The advantage of having soft shackles at the ends of the pigtails (instead of being tied or spliced directly to the blocks), is that you can remove the jib without having to unreeve the sheets. For those who like to keep their boat as close to rigged as possible, this reduces the effort of setting up and breaking down the boat.

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Eric

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Originally Posted by Isotope42
Originally Posted by Jeff_Bowers
Why not just tie the blocks and use the loop/knot arrangement at the jib?

The advantage of having soft shackles at the ends of the pigtails (instead of being tied or spliced directly to the blocks), is that you can remove the jib without having to unreeve the sheets. For those who like to keep their boat as close to rigged as possible, this reduces the effort of setting up and breaking down the boat.

Regards,
Eric


I am sure Jeff meant, why not use the soft shackle at the clew vs the blocks (only 1 shackle vs 2)

this is the one i made last weekend.
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Ok if the line is Vectran.
If it's UHMWPE (Dyneema/Spectra) chances are that the luggage tag "knot" will slide.


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Originally Posted by andrewscott

I am sure Jeff meant, why not use the soft shackle at the clew vs the blocks (only 1 shackle vs 2)

this is the one i made last weekend [...]
Because if like me you remove all your jib hardware from the boat if you use your method you need to rethread the jib sheet to go around the mast.

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Originally Posted by Luiz
Ok if the line is Vectran.
If it's UHMWPE (Dyneema/Spectra) chances are that the luggage tag "knot" will slide.


vectran sucks IMO unless it is covered and stays covered. uncovered, it Frays and gets fuzzy too quickly

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Re: Evolution of the soft shackle [Re: ] #211544
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Originally Posted by andrewscott
I am sure Jeff meant, why not use the soft shackle at the clew vs the blocks (only 1 shackle vs 2)

Like this one? I decided to have a little fun and make it from different colors.

As pepin points out, you'd have to make sure the pigtails were in front of the mast before stepping, and you can't remove all the hardware with the mast up (unless you unreeve the sheets).

Regards,
Eric

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Originally Posted by Isotope42

Like this one? I decided to have a little fun and make it from different colors.

As pepin points out, you'd have to make sure the pigtails were in front of the mast before stepping, and you can't remove all the hardware with the mast up (unless you unreeve the sheets).

Regards,
Eric


Love it! love the 2 colors!

i plan to remake the soft shackle with either a brummel or eye splice and plan to learn some button ends this week while on vacation.

Pepin makes sense if you remove your hardware

I have used this system for a few years. Yes you have to remember to have your pig tail in front of the mast pre-step, but it's rare l forget, and i can untie 1 line, and correct it in 20-30 seconds or so.. no huge deal

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