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#245797 - 03/20/12 12:23 AM Re: Why are F-18's so expensive? [Re: Jake]
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Originally Posted By: Jake
Oh dear god, I just priced a gallon of West System (I haven't bought any in a while...not many composite projects going on lately and I usually buy by the gallon). Almost $100 for a gallon of resin...I think I paid about half that the last time I bought it (not but a couple of years ago).


Resin Research Composite Pro is better than West and costs less. Your not officially allowed to complain about epoxy prices until you pay over $200/gallon for the good stuff, like Pro-Set and MGS.

The price of carbon keeps going up, which keeps increasing the costs on foils. I have carbon here that is over $100 per meter, and you need quite a few meters to build a 7 foot long F18 dagger board.

New sail prices aren't exactly going down either, few production boats are coming with U.S built sails so that's another USD<Euro problem.
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#245798 - 03/20/12 01:26 AM Re: Why are F-18's so expensive? [Re: F-18 5150]
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F18 daggers are now 7 feet long???
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#245811 - 03/20/12 03:15 AM Re: Why are F-18's so expensive? [Re: Timbo]
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The Nacra MKII daggers are 6' 6" long:

http://www.microwindracing.com/images/mkIIdaggerboards.JPG
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#245812 - 03/20/12 04:36 AM Re: Why are F-18's so expensive? [Re: John Williams]
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Originally Posted By: John Williams
Originally Posted By: brucat
Sorry, but comparing the cost of F18 to Melges and telling us it's all OK? Really?


Not at all, Mike - I guess a better way to put it is, "Why are M24s so much more expensive than an F18?"


You have been close to a Melges, right? For starters, there is a lot more material in those boats than ours. Considering the relative size, they are somewhat proportionally priced to a F18. Not to mention, their sails cost a ridiculous amount of money. How they ultimately justify the cost of these boats is beyond me, although I'd venture to say there are fewer of them than most people realize, and probably take a lot of labor to build.

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#245815 - 03/20/12 11:18 AM Re: Why are F-18's so expensive? [Re: F-18 5150]
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I thought I saw a price for the 'new' Melges 20 (a 3 man, open sport monohull, like a Flying Scot on 'roids) that was about $40K!

I remember thinking at that time, "Wow, you could buy TWO racing cats for that!"

I think Resin is a byproduct of Oil (Petrolium based) and I know you know what's been going on with the price of oil lately, so it's no surprise that the price of everything oil based is up too....then there's the increased shipping cost, because the delivery trucks run on...OIL.

Have you seen the price of Diesel fuel lately?

There are some good deals on used boats out there, thank God! But the price of -everything- is going up, it's your paycheck that's not going up as quickly, that's why it hurts a lot more.
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#245816 - 03/20/12 11:40 AM Re: Why are F-18's so expensive? [Re: Timbo]
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and...we're off.
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#245820 - 03/20/12 12:51 PM Re: Why are F-18's so expensive? [Re: F-18 5150]
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Where are you -off- to?

If you're going a long way, you may want to hire one of those 'Calgary Asian Escorts' I've seen advertised here! ;^0

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#245822 - 03/20/12 01:37 PM Re: Why are F-18's so expensive? [Re: F-18 5150]
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i would also suggest that real inflation (not US govt numbers), QE1 & 2, and fuel cost have exacerbated the cost of everything
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#245823 - 03/20/12 02:14 PM Re: Why are F-18's so expensive? [Re: Timbo]
Jake Offline
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Originally Posted By: Timbo
Where are you -off- to?

If you're going a long way, you may want to hire one of those 'Calgary Asian Escorts' I've seen advertised here! ;^0



I was just pointing out that the talk of oil was going to initiate the dive into the depths of political discord.
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#245824 - 03/20/12 02:21 PM Re: Why are F-18's so expensive? [Re: Jake]
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Give it a moment.
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