#245761 - 03/19/12 07:33 PM
Re: Why are F-18's so expensive?
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 06/19/01
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Loc: Long Beach, California
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The Tornado price you have is a couple of years old and does not include sails.
There is only one opportunity to buy an F20C for less than a new F18 - that is a used vs new scenario, too.
Yes, prices have gone up - in that period, we have seen all F18 production go overseas, so every purchase price for US sailors is based on some other currency. Until Matt finishes the new Falcon Marine F18, that situation will continue.
In addition, while I appreciate your sticker-shock, please take 15 minutes and price a Melges 24... or even the jib for a FARR 40. We have world-class racing for a fraction of the cost in just about any other class on the planet.
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After watching Lionel Messi play, I realize I need to sail harder.
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#245764 - 03/19/12 07:49 PM
Re: Why are F-18's so expensive?
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Carpal Tunnel
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2004 - built in Santa Ana, CA and the money went to Nacra US. 2012 - built overseas, money to Nacra Europe.
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- The harder you practice, the luckier you get - Gary Player, pro golfer
After watching Lionel Messi play, I realize I need to sail harder.
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#245768 - 03/19/12 08:09 PM
Re: Why are F-18's so expensive?
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Carpal Tunnel
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http://www.darrenbundock.com/darrenbundock/4sale.htmlUsed boat, race ready, $38K USD Where are you seeing a new boat for $21K USD? My Google isn't finding anything in that neighbourhood.
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- The harder you practice, the luckier you get - Gary Player, pro golfer
After watching Lionel Messi play, I realize I need to sail harder.
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#245771 - 03/19/12 08:17 PM
Re: Why are F-18's so expensive?
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 06/19/01
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Ah. Not quite apples to apples, eh?
How much to your door from Santander? ;-)
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John Williams
- The harder you practice, the luckier you get - Gary Player, pro golfer
After watching Lionel Messi play, I realize I need to sail harder.
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#245773 - 03/19/12 08:34 PM
Re: Why are F-18's so expensive?
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Registered: 11/07/11
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Loc: Boston, Ma
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The price Rich is quoting is for the Exploder Tornado, and is being used as a selling point to get the class back into the Olympics. The price is quoted here: http://catsailingnews.blogspot.com/2012/02/olympic-trials-interview-with-roland.html The boat comes with one-design sails, which are also price controlled, so I'm sure that helps. I suspect that part of the reason the price is relatively low for the Tornado is supply and demand. How many Tornados have been sold in the last few years? Have any of the Exploders actually sold at the price given, or is it part of the campaign for the games? I don't know the answers, and I'm not accusing the Tornado class of anything, but I'm not sure it's a great comparison.
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