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#249731 - 06/18/12 02:01 AM Re: Freeloader theory.... ** [Re: Just Todd]
Buccaneer Offline
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Originally Posted By: Just Todd
Originally Posted By: Buccaneer
Btw..have they had any success in isolating the "freeloader" gene yet? wink

Point is - If only tax payers can vote then politicians loose thier primary source of vote buying..whistle

Actually I'm a bit disappointed no one got the point 21 year old girl was making! Hopey went off on some BS WW2 Nazi theory and Danny Boy comes up with strange quote from the top one percent that works the system and wants you to pay more taxes... grin grin grin


You see things SO clearly Bucky. Why can't others see this for it's simple terms? I think it's the Kool Aid.

I'd be honored to meet you someday.


Absolutely! Anytime you are in my neck of the woods then by all means look me up and we'll have a beer or coffee (depending on time of day!)... grin
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#249859 - 06/20/12 05:46 PM Re: Freeloader theory.... [Re: Buccaneer]
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Loc: Key Largo, FL and Put-in-Bay, ...
A little bit about sailing, just for a break.
Everyone ought to read this article, or radio script:
http://radioviceonline.com/san-francisco-spend-150000-study-americas-cup-sailboats-effect-birds/
Then tell us what you think.
Seems to me the windmill generators actually kill them, not just scare them.
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#249876 - 06/20/12 11:12 PM Re: Freeloader theory.... [Re: bullswan]
Just Todd Offline
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Eric Holder,

FINALLY held in contempt!!

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/commi...-202646073.html
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#249877 - 06/21/12 12:09 AM Re: Freeloader theory.... [Re: bullswan]
Just Todd Offline
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Big Ears new theme song:

The Panderer

Oh well I'm the type of guy who will never plan it straight,
Where Mob bosses are, well you know that I'm around
I give them Gov't contracts cause to me they're all the same
I pander to their needs 'cause I like to mess around,
They call me the panderer , yeah I'm a panderer,
I go around around around around

Well there's Eric on my left and Nancy on my right,
And Michelle is the girl well that I'll be with tonight,
And when she ask me which one I love the best,
I tear open my shirt and I show UNIONS on my chest,
'Cause I'm a panderer, yeah I'm a panderer
I roam around around around around hmmm

Well I can't quit smoking cigs, I go through life without a care,
And I'm as inept as they come,
With the media in my corner, but I'm goin' nowhere.

Yeah I'm the type of guy that has my life paid for,
I'm never in one place I roam from town to town
And when I find myself following the constitution, I hop right in that car of mine, I drive around the world
And I'm a panderer, yeah I'm a panderer
I pander around around around around hmmm

SOLO

I'm the type of guy that will pander to the vote,
I'm never following the constitution, I like to shoot it down,
And when I find myself fallin behind in the polls, I give another special interest group the nod,
Cause I'm a panderer, yeah a panderer
I pander to the special interest groups.
Cause I'm a panderer, yeah a panderer
I pander to their immoral needs.
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#249878 - 06/21/12 02:28 AM Housing fire sale for the one percent...... [Re: bullswan]
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Nice song,...did you by chance compose it yourself? grin

For Billionaires Only: Uncle Sam's Real Estate Fire Sale

Written by  William F. Jasper

“The largest transfer of wealth from the public to private sector is about to begin. The federal government will be bulk-selling the massive portfolio of foreclosed homes now owned by HUD, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to private investors — vulture funds.”

So warned Roger Arnold, chief economist for ALM Advisors of Pasadena, California, in a column for RealMoney on August 11, 2011, that first lifted the lid on this latest colossal scandal to come out of the 2008-2009 financial crisis.

“These homes,” wrote Arnold, “which are now the property of the U.S. government, the U.S. taxpayer, U.S. citizens collectively, are going to be sold to private investor conglomerates at extraordinarily large discounts to real value. You and I will not be allowed to participate. These investors will come from the private-equity and hedge-fund community, Goldman Sachs (GS) and its derivatives, as well as foreign sovereign wealth funds that can bring a billion dollars or more to each transaction.”

Warren Buffett, one of the richest men in the world, obviously, would have no trouble qualifying for the privilege of bidding in this fire sale for the super-rich. And the “Oracle of Omaha” appears to be more than casually interested in getting in on the game.

The Wall Street Journal reported on March 20, 2012: “Warren Buffett, considered a sage investor and chief executive of Berkshire Hathaway Inc., said in an interview with CNBC-TV last month that he would buy up ‘a couple hundred thousand’ single-family homes if he could do so easily, given the high yields on rental investments.”

A couple hundred thousand homes for Buffett? What about the hundreds of thousands of families who are being foreclosed on? Isn’t that what the Fed, Treasury, the Bush White House, and members of Congress told us the $750 billion TARP (Troubled Asset Relief Program) fund was for when they forced it on us in 2008? What about the additional hundreds of thousands of families who would love to be able to purchase these homes and who may be qualified to buy under a genuine privatization program open to all? What about the hundreds of thousands of small investors who are willing to buy, rehabilitate, and rent out these properties? Well, the folks running Fannie, Freddie, and HUD haven’t completely ruled out the little guys; they are continuing to sell a portion of their mammoth inventory of foreclosed homes the traditional way, one-by-one to individual buyers. But over the past year, they have been moving into bulk sales and have been getting ready to unload their portfolios en masse at huge discounts to the big buyers.

Who are some of the other high-rollers lining up for the restricted Fannie/Freddie/HUD fire sale? According to the Wall Street Journal, they include Lewis Ranieri, regarded as “the godfather” of mortgage finance for developing mortgage-backed securities (MBS) and collateralized mortgage obligations (CMOs), the financial weapons of mass destruction that played a key role in the economic meltdown.

Another, says the Journal, is hedge fund titan Paulson & Co., headed by John Paulson.

Forbes magazine, which in 2012 listed Paulson as #61 among the world’s billionaires and #17 among the “Forbes 400,” says that he “became a billionaire in 2007 by shorting subprime securities, earning a $3.5 billion payout.” What Forbes doesn’t mention in its flattering profile is that Paulson, like Ranieri, was a major architect of the house of cards built on CMOs and other fraudulent debt instruments — euphemistically called “synthetic derivatives” — that Paulson marketed through Goldman Sachs.

And, of course, the power brokers at Goldman Sachs, JP­MorganChase, and Citigroup, who have already reaped billions of taxpayer and investor dollars from the financial havoc they helped cause — as well as from the bailouts that followed — are salivating at the thought of even greater lucre to be made in the newly created homes-for-rent market.

“Economists at Goldman Sachs estimate the annual yield on an investment on rental property nationwide averages about 6.3%, but can exceed 8% in cities that were hit hard during the housing bust, including Las Vegas, Detroit and Tampa,” notes the Journal. “By contrast, mortgage bonds have average yields of just over 3%, and investment-grade corporate bonds are yielding about 3.5%, according the Barclays Capital U.S. Investment-Grade Index.”

Incredibly, the malefactors who invented the toxic mortgage securities and raked in massive wealth by marketing those fraudulent products with a “pump-and-dump” strategy that fleeced millions of savers, investors, and homeowners are now planning to use their ill-gotten gains to once again make a killing. And, once again, this is only possible because the Federal Reserve has instituted a corrupt system of cronyism that amounts to legalized theft on a titanic scale.

These privileged mega-investors could “instantaneously become the largest improved real estate owners and landlords in the world,” notes Roger Arnold. “The U.S. taxpayer will get pennies on the dollar for these homes and then be allowed to rent them back at market rates.”

The REO program to pulverize Main Street for the benefit of Wall Street would go nowhere without approval from Chairman Ben Bernanke and his fellow governors at the Federal Reserve. On April 5, 2012, the Fed issued a policy statement loosening regulations so that “banking organizations may choose to make greater use of rental activities in their disposition strategies.” This will make it easier for banks — including those that received billions of taxpayer dollars — to hold REOs off the market as rentals for 10 years, or longer. This was a follow-on to the Fed’s white paper on housing issued by Bernanke on January 4, 2012, that painted a dire picture of the real estate market and expressed the need to look at new options. 

The paper, entitled The U.S. Housing Market: Current Conditions and Policy Considerations, declares: “Looking forward, continued weakness in the housing market poses a significant barrier to a more vigorous economic recovery.”

The Fed’s white paper notes:

At the same time that housing demand has weakened, the number of homes for sale is elevated relative to historical norms, due in large part to the swollen inventory of homes held by banks, guarantors, and servicers after completion of foreclosure proceedings. These properties are often called real estate owned, or REO, properties.... Perhaps one-fourth of the 2 million vacant homes for sale in the second quarter of 2011 were REO properties. The combination of weak demand and elevated supply has put substantial downward pressure on house prices, and the continued flow of new REO properties — perhaps as high as 1 million properties per year in 2012 and 2013 — will continue to weigh on house prices for some time.

Additionally, it points out that “currently, about 12 million homeowners are underwater on their mortgages — more than one out of five homes with a mortgage.” Presumably, many of these will also end up in foreclosure.

But Bernanke and his Fed brethren, naturally, have a solution. They claim “a government-facilitated REO-to-rental program has the potential to help the housing market and improve loss recoveries on REO portfolios.”

But, to add audacity on top of audacity, the Fedmeisters hint that besides favoring a closed privatization scheme that turns over an REO bonanza to their cronies (who have already benefited immensely from the Fed’s crooked largess), they may also be setting the program up for us, the taxpayers, to help finance the deals for the billionaire investors! The Fed white paper informs Congress that “providing investors with debt financing will likely also affect the prices they offer on bulk pools of REO properties.”

“Subsidized financing provided by the REO holder may increase the sales price of properties,” the Fed advises, appearing to suggest that it would be to the benefit of all concerned if the taxpayers sweetened the saccharin deal even further.

President Obama, who likes to inveigh against Wall Street (while taking record sums of Wall Street cash as campaign contributions), is on board with the plan. “The Obama administration, in conjunction with federal regulators and led by the overseer of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, are very close to announcing a pilot program to sell government-owned foreclosures in bulk to investors as rentals, according to administration officials,” Diana Olick reported for CNBC on January 9, 2012, in a piece entitled “White House wants to convert foreclosed houses to rentals.”

“A pilot sales program will be starting in the very near future, according to administration officials,” Olick reported. “They are working on what the market potential is, what pricing would be, how government can partner with private investors, and who has the operational experience to manage so many properties.”

http://dailyreckoning.com/the-disconnect-between-household-wealth-and-gdp-growth/
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#249879 - 06/21/12 02:54 AM Re: Freeloader theory.... [Re: Just Todd]
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Originally Posted By: Just Todd
Big Ears new theme song:

The Panderer
[...]

Very good Todd. Did you write it or did you plagiarize on of the truckers?

Here's a lovely poem your good buddy Mittens published today.

An Ode to My Bus

Though many think me made of wood
I must confess this bus is good.
On this bus I can have some fun
While reporters ride a second one.
We started from a farm so green;
I ordered lunch from a touch screen;
I left the press a note quite mean;
My favorite hammer is ball peen.
I cannot recall a trip much fairer
And am happy there was no bus error.
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See the Wind
Feel the Wind
Be the Wind

Psssst! Muni bonds.
--- Hobie1616

Don't be fooled by appearances. In Hawaii, some of the most powerful people look like bums and stuntmen.
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#249907 - 06/22/12 02:26 AM Re: Freeloader theory.... [Re: hobie1616]
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Registered: 08/21/01
Posts: 854
Loc: Issaquah, WA, USA
See the Wind
Feel the Wind
Be the Wind

Psssst! Muni bonds.
--- Hobie1616

Some might agree, you are the wind.

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#249911 - 06/22/12 10:10 AM Re: Freeloader theory.... [Re: H17cat]
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Well hot air anyway.... grin
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#249921 - 06/22/12 03:25 PM Re: Freeloader theory.... [Re: H17cat]
hobie1616 Offline
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Originally Posted By: H17cat
See the Wind
Feel the Wind
Be the Wind

Psssst! Muni bonds.
--- Hobie1616

Some might agree, you are the wind.

Did you share your "joke" with your grandkids yet Kaleb?

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See the Wind
Feel the Wind
Be the Wind

Psssst! Muni bonds.
--- Hobie1616

Don't be fooled by appearances. In Hawaii, some of the most powerful people look like bums and stuntmen.
--- Matt King

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#249938 - 06/23/12 05:02 AM Hopey war monger... [Re: hobie1616]
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Yes that's right Hopey, and the English queen is actually Marry Poppins.... grin

Hands Off Syria!

by Ron Paul

Before the US House of Representatives: Statement Introducing HR 5993, The Syria Non-Intervention Act of 2012

Mr. Speaker: The Administration is marching toward another war in the Middle East, this time against Syria. As with the president's war against Libya, Congress has been frozen out of the process. The Constitution, which grants Congress and only Congress the authority to declare war, is once again being completely ignored.

The push for a US attack on Syria makes no sense, is not in our interest, and will likely make matters worse. Yet the Administration, after transferring equipment to the Syrian rebels and facilitating the shipment of weapons from Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States, has indicated that its plans for an actual invasion are complete.


This week there are even press reports that the Central Intelligence Agency is distributing assault rifles, anti-tank rocket launchers, and other ammunition to the Syrian opposition. These are acts of war by the United States government. But where is the authority for the president to commit acts of war against Syria? There is no authority. The president is acting on his own.

Today we are introducing legislation to prevent the administration from accelerating its plan to overthrow the Syrian government by assisting rebel forces that even the administration admits include violent Islamic extremists.

The bill is simple. It states that absent a Congressional declaration of war on Syria:

"No funds available to the Department of Defense or an element of the intelligence community may be obligated or expended for the purpose or which would have the effect of supporting, directly or indirectly, military or paramilitary operations in Syria by any nation, group, organization, movement, or individual."

This legislation is modeled after the famous Boland Amendments of the early 1980s that were designed to limit the president's assistance to the Contras in their attempt to overthrow the government of Nicaragua. Congress has an obligation to exercise oversight of the president's foreign policy actions and to protect its constitutional prerogatives. This legislation will achieve both important functions.

Mr. Speaker, the last thing this country needs is yet another war particularly in the Middle East. Even worse is the president once again ignoring the Legislative Branch and going to war on his own. I hope my colleagues will join me in standing up for our Constitutional authority and resisting what will be another disastrous war in the Middle East.

http://lewrockwell.com/paul/paul811.html
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