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#250608 - 07/06/12 04:42 PM Re: mooch theory.... ** [Re: Just Todd]
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Originally Posted By: Just Todd
And another great website that puts liberlist into perspective.

I like the one about the Post Turtle.

Worth the look:

http://liberallogic101.com/

I like the one about reduced expectations.

Five short weeks ago, Mitt Romney's campaign released a campaign ad boasting that day one of his (imaginary) presidency he would "announce deficit reductions, ending the Obama era of big government."

Today, he clarified his position in response to a question from a reporter. Unlike the claim in his ad, Romney said his plan wasn't to balance the budget right away. Instead, he said his plan called for saving "more and more money over time, so we're able to get America to a balanced budget in eight to ten years—not in the first year."


Or the one about credibility.

You can conduct byzantine transactions through opaque investment accounts and private corporations in offshore tax havens such as Bermuda and the Cayman Islands. Or you can credibly run for president at a time of great economic distress.

I don’t think you can do both.
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#250615 - 07/07/12 12:02 AM Re: hoochie theory.... [Re: hobie1616]
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"In a landmark decision, the Supreme Court ruled President Obama's healthcare mandate is constitutional. This is a major victory for President Obama, who spent three years promoting it, and a major setback for Mitt Romney, who spent three years creating it."
---Jay Leno

"For several minutes after the ruling, CNN was mistakenly reporting that the Supreme Court struck down President Obama’s healthcare law. In response CNN was like, 'Thank god no one watches us.'"
---Jimmy Fallon

"This activist ruling opens the floodgates, folks! If Obama can force you to get health insurance just by calling it a tax, then there is nothing to stop him from making you gay marry an illegal immigrant wearing a condom in a hydroponic pot farm powered by solar energy! And you know his buddy Roberts will make it all good by calling it a 'homomexual marijuana love-glove sun tax!'"
---Stephen Colbert

"In Louisiana, Republican Governor Bobby Jindal said he's just gonna refuse to implement Obamacare. So if you need an operation in Louisiana you'll have to pay for it the old-fashioned way: stand on a balcony, flash your tits and hope someone throws you money."
---Bill Maher

"Mitt Romney wants to prove he's regular guy, so he went someplace and he ordered a bucket of pheasant McNuggets."
---David Letterman

"Bush and I were published on the same day. My book was called I Remember Nothing, and his could be, too."
---Nora Ephron
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#250620 - 07/07/12 03:12 AM Re: hoochie theory.... [Re: hobie1616]
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Hello, Human Diary. It is I again, Mitt Romney, your better.

The holiday was quite satisfactory, Mr. Diary. I had something called lemon aid, which is yet another demonstration that the private sector can provide people with medical aid, financial aid, and other kinds of aid without government interference. My initial opinion is that it was lemon, and wet, and good.

In campaign news, my staff has begun planning a new strategy to best elucidate my foreign policy opinions to the general public. Since I was not aware I had any foreign policy opinions, this is both a very simple task and a rather difficult one. The current plan is for me to simply visit some countries that I am expected to have foreign policy opinions on, then state that I have some unspecified opinions about them. Our initial choices for foreign places to visit:

London, for the Olympics. This was an easy decision, because I know many people who do sport, and have had past experience supervising people who do sport. I will no doubt be in my element. As a plus, I will also be able to visit with my horse, who is in sport, and charge the whole thing as a campaign expense.

Israel. It is a requirement that all conservative politicians visit Israel, whether they are in a position to influence Israel-related policy or not. I am not entirely sure how this came to be, but is now a requirement. I believe at this point more Republican candidates have visited Israel than have visited California.

Germany, because I like money, and Germany seems to be the only remaining place in Europe that has any.

Poland. During one of the few instances in which I met the previous Republican presidential unit, he gave me one bit of advice that I have always remembered. "Don't forget Poland," he said—then my exceedingly nervous staff forcibly grabbed me and led me away. Not forgetting Poland will be, in some small way, my tribute to that fellow. I also recall a previous national candidate making quite a bit of news when they noted that they could see Russia from their house; I hear you can see Russia from Poland, so that counts as at least double the foreign policy experience when compared to the other places. It will also provide a satisfactory location for announcing that I do not like Russia, which is another requirement imposed upon all conservative campaigns. In some ways, it is a shame. We in America have been striving to build a large, forbidding wall on our southern border, and Russia is the country with the most practical recent experiences in building large, forbidding border walls. There is no doubt many things we could have learned from them.

That should be sufficient foreign policy experience, I think. When I was in charge of the Olympics in Utah, I visited the Olympic Village there, so that already ought to count for quite a bit of foreign policy knowledge, but it is always safe to add a little more. As it turns out, most foreign nations are unsuitable for political visitation purposes. We have tentatively eliminated France, because France is no longer as popular with conservatives as it was during the time of my youth, and we have nixed Afghanistan because it has come to my attention that Afghanistan has very few if any luxury hotels.

Sadly, my suggestions of perhaps visiting some of my own money in Switzerland or the Caymans during the trip were met only with a conspicuous silence, even after I pointed out that visiting those locations would no doubt count as boosting my economic policy credentials. Perhaps in the future there will be an offshore bank account Olympics, in which the portfolios of the world's most wealthy tycoon units all compete together, and I shall be able to visit my holdings there. If I become president I think I shall suggest that.
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#250637 - 07/07/12 10:18 PM Re: hoochie theory.... [Re: hobie1616]
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Don't be goofy Todd.

"I've become less conservative since the [GOP] started becoming goofy"
by: lowkell
Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 14:51:47 PM EDT

Check out this interview with Reagan appointee "Judge Richard Posner, a conservative on the 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Chicago, [who] has long been one of the nation's most respected and admired legal thinkers on the right." Here are some highlights:

I think these right-wingers who are blasting [Justice John] Roberts are making a very serious mistake. Because if you put [yourself] in [Roberts'] position ... what's he supposed to think? That he finds his allies to be a bunch of crackpots? Does that help the conservative movement? I mean, what would you do if you were Roberts? All the sudden you find out that the people you thought were your friends have turned against you, they despise you, they mistreat you, they leak to the press. What do you do? Do you become more conservative? Or do you say, 'What am I doing with this crowd of lunatics?' Right? Maybe you have to re-examine your position. I mean, I've become less conservative since the Republican Party started becoming goofy.
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#250639 - 07/08/12 02:17 AM Fascism for dummies.... [Re: hobie1616]
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Fascism for dummies....

Chief Justice Roberts, Economic Fascist

by Gary North
   
On July 2, 1776, Congress voted for the Declaration of Independence. Most of the members signed it on July 4, although more signed over the next month.

The problem was this: a declaration of independence from King George III (and from Parliament, which was really the source of bureaucratic meddling and taxation of a staggering 1% of GDP), was that it led within six years to massive debt, hyperinflation, and increased taxation. After 1788, it led to more of the same. It has finally led to Nancy Pelosi's ideological agent on the bench, John Roberts.

In upholding Obamacare, which is in fact Pelosicare, Chief Justice Roberts wrote the majority opinion. He indulged in some lawyer-like deception, as lawyers are paid to do. The law specifically says that the mandatory payment for not buying insurance is a penalty, not a tax. He determined that this penalty would be unconstitutional if it were a penalty (commerce clause), so, lo and behold, it's a tax!

This is all nonsense, of course. The government has regulated lots of things under the commerce clause, telling people what they must do, can do, and cannot do. If the Supreme Court gives any regulation a thumbs-up, the regulation continues. No single case is going to reverse the federal bureaucracy from pursuing its agenda under the commerce clause.

One man's opinion on what the commerce clause means is merely his opinion. This opinion does not bind the federal bureaucracy or any future Court decision. It just gave Roberts a way to justify his theory of the legality of unlimited federal taxation, now to be collected as fines for not buying health insurance.

He argued that the government can now force residents and citizens of the United States to buy health care insurance that they do not want, or else face a government-imposed fine for not buying it. He called this a tax. The majority five accepted this.

To the extent that his opinion has established a precedent, Roberts has at long last legalized open economic fascism to America. Of course, it has been alive and well ever since the New Deal, and really since the First Bank of the United States (1791 to 1811). But now it has been placed under the judicial umbrella of a Supreme Court decision.

Economic fascism is the doctrine that there is a government-business alliance that makes the nation wealthy or strong militarily. This idea has never had a judicial basis before. Now it does.

A tax in America prior to last week was a payment by the citizen or legal entity to an agency of civil government. Not so in the new, improved American fascism, as articulated by Chief Justice Roberts. In fascism, a compulsory payment to a private, profit-seeking entity is considered a tax. You can pay it to an insurance company, or you can pay a fine to the federal government. Take your pick. They are both taxes.
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#250642 - 07/08/12 12:37 PM Re: Fascism for dummies.... [Re: bullswan]
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I hope people actually read this article you posted of Gary North, thanks once again Bucky.
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#250643 - 07/08/12 12:44 PM Re: Fascism for dummies.... [Re: bullswan]
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"We found no evidence to support the claim that Romney — while he was still running Bain Capital — shipped American jobs overseas," FactCheck.org concluded in a report last month.

Yep, the Big Eared, King Obuthole is such a liar! He's a major Charlatan, and doesn't even have enough self control to quit smoking!!

He is the quintessential Post Turtle! Remember the post turtle?- see one of my last posts.

Read the entire article here:
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-ad-calls-rom...s-politics.html
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#250644 - 07/08/12 12:45 PM Re: Fascism for dummies.... [Re: bullswan]
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Oh well, it's N-NE @ 11knts., gotta go sailing. You see, we do talk about sailing on this thread!
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#250646 - 07/08/12 03:39 PM Re: Fascism for dummies.... [Re: Just Todd]
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Originally Posted By: Just Todd
I hope people actually read this article you posted of Gary North, thanks once again Bucky.

Who put Roberts on the bench Todd? It's all Bush's fault. Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!!

It’s constitutional. Bitches.
---Patrick Gaspard
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#250647 - 07/08/12 04:00 PM Re: Fascism for dummies.... [Re: Just Todd]
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Originally Posted By: Just Todd
Yep, the Big Eared, King Obuthole is such a liar!

You're getting goofier and goofier Todd. At least you're using a spell checker and haven't reverted to judicious use of the caps lock key.

Originally Posted By: Just Todd
"We found no evidence to support the claim that Romney — while he was still running Bain Capital — shipped American jobs overseas," FactCheck.org concluded in a report last month.

The Bain offshoring/outsourcing issue was first raised in an article in the Washington Post.

But a Washington Post examination of securities filings shows the extent of Bain’s investment in firms that specialized in helping other companies move or expand operations overseas. While Bain was not the largest player in the outsourcing field, the private equity firm was involved early on, at a time when the departure of jobs from the United States was beginning to accelerate and new companies were emerging as handmaidens to this outflow of employment.

The Romney campaign demanded a retraction of the story, to no avail, and more recently pointed to a FactCheck.org analysis questioning the “outsourcing” charge.

The Washington Post will not retract their June 21 report about Bain Capital's investments in firms that specialized in outsourcing American jobs.

"We are very confident in our reporting," Washington Post spokesperson Kris Coratti said following a meeting between the Post's executive editor Marcus Brauchli and Mitt Romney campaign representatives, who had sought a retraction from the paper.

The Romney campaign would not discuss the meeting. "It was an off-the-record private meeting so I don’t have anything for you on that," said campaign press secretary Andrea Saul.


The Obama campaign has dismissed the FactCheck.org assessment as inaccurate and penned a letter to the truth-squadding website disputing its conclusions. And its newest commercial re-ups the attack on Romney’s business record.

“The statement that Gov. Romney ‘left’ Bain in February 1999 — a statement central to your fact-check — is not accurate,” Cutter writes. “Romney took an informal leave of absence but remained in full legal control of Bain and continued to be paid by Bain as such. Governor Romney would have the period of Bain service understood differently, for the obvious reason that there is much in this l999-2002 period that he would prefer to avoid accountability for.”

Cutter cites statements by Romney, his wife Ann, lawyer Bradley Malt, and filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission as evidence that he maintained significant managerial and financial ties with the company during the period when the outsourcings referenced in Obama TV ads occurred.


"... there is much in this l999-2002 period that he would prefer to avoid accountability for.”

How do you account for that Todd?
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