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#248606 - 05/19/12 02:30 AM Re: Loopy Holes ** [Re: hobie1616]
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Whatever happened to Wisconsisn Nice Todd? Did this guy move in from Texas?
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#248607 - 05/19/12 03:36 AM Re: Loopy Holes [Re: bullswan]
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Experenced Mitt vs. Obama.......RGSubject: Things the News Media did not tell about Mitt Romney
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> Mitt Romney from his Mitt Romney 2012 Site: After going to both Harvard Business School and Harvard Law School simultaneously, he passed the Michigan bar, but never worked as an attorney. As a venture-capitalist, Romney's first major business deal involved investing in a start-up office supply company with one store in Massachusetts that sold office supplies.
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> That company, called Staples, now has over 2,000 stores and employs over 90,000 people. Romney or his company Bain Capital (using what became known as the "Bain Way") would go on to perform the same kinds of business miracles again and again, with companies like Domino's, Sealy, Brookstone,
> Weather Channel, Burger King, Warner Music Group, Dollarama, Home Depot Supply, and many others. Got your calculators handy? Let's recap. Volunteer
> campaign worker for his dad's gubernatorial campaign 1 year. Unpaid intern in Governor's office 8 years. Mormon missionary in Paris 2 years. Unpaid bishop and stake president for his church 10 years. No salary as president of the Olympics 3 years. No salary as MA governor 4 years. That's a grand total of 28 years of unpaid service to his country, his community and his church.
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#248618 - 05/20/12 12:30 AM Re: Loopy Holes [Re: Just Todd]
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You really should move to Arizona Todd, you'd fit right in.

Once again, Arizona is the nation's laughingstock

Aaaaaaaaand we're off to the races once again.

The race, that would be, to determine the loopiest, looniest oh-so-laughable state in the land.

Cue Secretary of State Ken Bennett: "I'm not a birther. I believe the president was born in Hawaii or at least I hope he was. But my responsibility as secretary of state is to make sure that the ballots in Arizona are correct and that those people whose names are on the ballot have met the qualifications for the office that they seeking."

So starts the official kickoff to the 2014 gubernatorial campaign, a contest in which every God-fearing, gubernatorial-aspiring Republican will apparently feel the need to court the "tea party."

How better to do it than to channel birthers?

In an interview with KFYI's Mike Broomhead on Thursday, Bennett said that he has asked the state of Hawaii for verification that Barack Obama was born in the islands, and alas, has gotten nothing back.

Other than questions about who he is and why he wants to know, that is.

Bennett says he's not a birther. He's simply following the lead of Sheriff Joe Arpaio, who took time out from all those uninvestigated sex crimes to conclude a few months ago that there is some presidential funny business about Obama's birth. Arpaio, at the request of 250 "tea party" members, had his volunteer posse work for six months before holding a news conference in March to announce that he believes Obama's birth certificate may be a fraud.

On Friday, Arpaio applauded Bennett's move, hinting that he believes Hawaiian officials may be in cahoots with the president on a cover-up.

"Hey, they're probably in a box because if they come back and certify that the birth certificate is legitimate, there's a little problem there," he told me. "We're not done investigating that."

Arpaio says he's working the investigation every day. "I think there's a lot of probable cause there, and we're not done yet."

After Arpaio's big expose, Bennett said he got 1,200 e-mails from people, asking him to demand Obama's birth certificate.

To which my mother would ask: If you got 1,200 e-mails asking you to jump off a cliff, would you do it?

Evidently, Mama Bennett would say "heck yeah," because eight weeks ago Bennett found himself a form on the Internet, got a $5 money order and fired off his request that Hawaiian officials verify that they've got proof of Obama's birth.

The fact that Hawaiian officials have said time and again that Obama is one of them apparently doesn't hold water with Bennett.

"I was frankly expecting that they would very quickly and very simply say yes," he told Broomhead. "Eight weeks later, they haven't said it."

Possibly because they've been asked the question so many times that in 2010 the state actually passed a law allowing Hawaiian officials to ignore requests for copies of the document. At the time, the Hawaii Department of Health was getting 50 requests a month, according to the Honolulu Advertiser.

And now, one more from Arizona's chief elections officer -- the guy who decides what candidates' names will go on our ballot this fall.

Broomhead asked Bennett if he has made similar requests of other presidential candidates.

"I don't know if other states have this mechanism like Hawaii has. I was just trying to take advantage of what I thought was a very simple and straightforward request," Bennett replied. "If they (Hawaiian officials) don't or won't do that, then I have to start thinking about well, are we going to make all the other candidates, because we should treat everybody the same."

In other words: no, he hasn't asked the others.

So if the state of Hawaii decides that the state of Arizona is certifiably insane and refuses to comply, will Bennett refuse to put the president of the United States on Arizona's ballot?

"That's possible," Bennett said.

Yes, because it's been 10 minutes or so since we were a finger-wagging, militia-loving, gun-toting, sovereignty-seeking circus sideshow on the national landscape.

Remember the good old days, when we were just known as the Grand Canyon State?


As my really really good friend Kaleb sez, "Read the comments."
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#248631 - 05/20/12 02:23 AM Re: Loopy Holes [Re: Just Todd]
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Originally Posted By: Just Todd
Experenced Mitt vs. Obama


Really Todd?

In a real free market, you shouldn't make money by failing


The reason why Mitt Romney and his defenders in the press do not want to talk about Bain Capital's brand of "business" is because it strikes at the very heart of Mitt Romney's central justification for being president. They both defend what Mitt Romney did as "capitalism" and "free enterprise." In their elite world, it is perfectly legitimate business to make money when companies fail. Therefore, Mitt Romney as president will also see to it that this style of "business" is legitimized and encouraged by the federal government when Mitt Romney is president.

But Mitt Romney isn't a businessman in the way the average American understands business. Mitt Romney didn't invest in that steel mill, turn it around for a profit and walk away with perfectly justified earnings. Nor did he invest that money and lose his investment through mismanagement or bad luck, which would also be perfectly fair.

The central problem with Mitt Romney's style of "business" is that he doubled his investment even though he drove that steel mill into bankruptcy. This is no different from golden parachute CEO's who run companies into the ground and still walk away with a huge severance package. This is no different from what Bernie Madoff did. This is no different from racketeering. Mitt Romney's "business" is no different from what Wall Street did, running the national economy into the ground and walking away with record profits. While one could very cynically call loansharking "business," nobody believes it is in any way a healthy and free market enterprise.

The American people understand business shouldn't be like this. There should be rules against it. There should be ethical standards preventing people from even thinking of doing it. Not only is it immoral, it strikes at the heart of what a truly free and fair market should be all about: creating and building, competition on a level playing field, and comeuppance when there is failure. If you or I start a flower shop and it fails, we lose our savings. If Mitt Romney does the same thing, he doubles his investment. That's not a free market. That's a perversion of what free enterprise is all about. Mitt Romney's brand of "business" should not be held up as a model. He should be decried as the poster child of what is wrong with this country's elite in the media and on Wall Street. Mitt Romney's "business" experience wouldn't be any better for America than Madoff's.

Mitt Romney's experience at Bain is exactly what disqualifies him for the office of president.

To make a long story short, Mitt Romney isn't a businessman. He's a Wall Street racketeer. Any business that rewards failure is not a market, and certainly not a free and fair one. That's called a racket. Even the Tea Party understands that, even if the elite media do not.
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#248683 - 05/22/12 12:51 AM Loopy's free market... [Re: bullswan]
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"real free market" that's a good one.... Are bailouts also part of your "real free market" Hopey? grin
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#248688 - 05/22/12 02:51 AM Re: Loopy Holes [Re: hobie1616]
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The Washington Post says you're "a half-baked clown" Todd. Are you going to take that lying down?
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#248689 - 05/22/12 03:16 AM Re: Loopy Holes [Re: hobie1616]
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Is Chumlee really George Tierney of Greenville, South Carolina?
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#248721 - 05/22/12 03:50 PM Re: Loopy Holes [Re: hobie1616]
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If you had moved to Arizona Todd, you might have gotten a free trip to Hawaii.
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#248763 - 05/23/12 02:49 AM Fuel for the fire... [Re: bullswan]
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Here ya go Todd.. wink

From promotional booklet produced in 1991 by Barack Obama's then-literary agency, Acton & Dystel...



http://www.breitbart.com/mediaserver/Bre...h=464&w=600
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#248765 - 05/23/12 03:04 AM Re: Loopy Holes [Re: hobie1616]
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Please keep watching Fox News Todd. Invite Chumlee over to share your bag of Cheetos.
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