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#250039 - 06/26/12 01:27 PM Re: Spam abuse [Re: mummp]
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How many Uber clients do you build cabinets for?


If he doesn't build cabinets for uber rich guys, then I bet he builds cabinets for guys who do work for uber rich guys. Those uber rich guys pay them cash for their labor commodity, which in turn is used to purchase Karl's labor commodity.

I work for an insanely rich guy. His net worth was about $35mil this year. He provides me a great living in return for my labor commodity. (Along with 5000 other employees - his company started with like 20, back in 1996 btw)

My Dad was a construction worker - built the DC metro, then sold life insurance door to door during the doldrums of the 70's recession after he graduated from a fine school with a great liberal arts degree. He ended up becoming the executive vice president of the largest custom home builder in America - by selling homes to mostly uber-rich people. He employed thousands of workers to get this done, and in the process, provided his family a great living.

Liberals hate the term "trickle down" economics - as well they should. The mainstream media has led you to believe that all of the rich people take their dollar beels and stuff them under their mattresses, or shred them into confetti for some extravagant display of their wealth at a friend's dinner party. I don't know for sure what this view of wealth and economics is based on, but I have a good feeling that its motivated by jealousy.

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#250041 - 06/26/12 02:32 PM Re: Spam abuse [Re: Undecided]
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#250042 - 06/26/12 03:27 PM Re: Spam abuse [Re: Undecided]
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Damn Tad, I'll bet you're a lovely shade of purple at the moment.

Calm down and spend a few moments in supplication to those wonderful people to whom you owe your humble existence.
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#250043 - 06/26/12 03:31 PM Re: Spam abuse [Re: waterbug_wpb]
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How is any of this drivel helping Rick get his SPAM problem solved?

Y'all have a place for this crap.

Between these rants and the SPAM, Catsailor has become a vast wasteland of uninteresting and divisive conjecture.

Mary must not be checking in very much anymore.

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#250044 - 06/26/12 03:36 PM Re: Spam abuse [Re: mummp]
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#250045 - 06/26/12 03:43 PM Re: Spam abuse [Re: pgp]
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Damn Tad, I'll bet you're a lovely shade of purple at the moment.

Calm down and spend a few moments in supplication to those wonderful people to whom you owe your humble existence.


Actually Pete, I'm quite pleased at the moment - especially with my "humble" experience.

As for spending time worshipping those who I "owe" my living - You seem to not understand something which I will explain -

I owe them nothing other than that which they pay for. They pay for my labor commodity on weekdays between 9 to 5. Sometimes the weekends and sometimes late at night. That is the nature of the contract that I have with my employer. Its no different than purchasing a car or a house, or a washing machine. Its an agreement between two willing parties where both end up getting what they want. My employer wants my labor commodity, and I want compensation for such. If either of us become unsatisfied with the terms of the agreement, we are free to terminate our business relationship and seek other arrangements which may be more beneficial to either party.

There's no supplication or idolatry required.

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#250051 - 06/26/12 04:48 PM Re: Spam abuse [Re: Undecided]
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Originally Posted By: Undecided
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How many Uber clients do you build cabinets for?


If he doesn't build cabinets for uber rich guys, then I bet he builds cabinets for guys who do work for uber rich guys. Those uber rich guys pay them cash for their labor commodity, which in turn is used to purchase Karl's labor commodity.

I work for an insanely rich guy. His net worth was about $35mil this year. He provides me a great living in return for my labor commodity. (Along with 5000 other employees - his company started with like 20, back in 1996 btw)

My Dad was a construction worker - built the DC metro, then sold life insurance door to door during the doldrums of the 70's recession after he graduated from a fine school with a great liberal arts degree. He ended up becoming the executive vice president of the largest custom home builder in America - by selling homes to mostly uber-rich people. He employed thousands of workers to get this done, and in the process, provided his family a great living.

Liberals hate the term "trickle down" economics - as well they should. The mainstream media has led you to believe that all of the rich people take their dollar beels and stuff them under their mattresses, or shred them into confetti for some extravagant display of their wealth at a friend's dinner party. I don't know for sure what this view of wealth and economics is based on, but I have a good feeling that its motivated by jealousy.


You kinda make the liberal's point with the bit I highlighted above.

If you have a fire that heavily damages a forest (or a financial melt down that damages the economy), the forest doesn't get healthy again by making the big trees bigger. Oh, the big trees would like everyone to think so now that there is less competition - but it's the little trees (small business) that revitalize the forest. The small businesses in this country are capable of some really smart innovation if they can keep getting some daylight.

And as to your last point, the truth is that middle and lower income people inject a SIGNIFICANTLY larger percentage of their income back into the economy that the rich elite.
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#250053 - 06/26/12 04:57 PM Re: Spam abuse [Re: pgp]
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Originally Posted By: pgp

That's just not true. Consider Gates and Jobs, neither was wealthy when they started out. Iirc, IBM came to Gates for help with their pc and they still couldn't build a competitive system.


IBM built the entire system, Gates (et al)only created the operating system (DOS = DUMB operating system)
Gates was brilliant and lucky that IBM went along with it, and they (MS) kept the licensing rights.... and leased it to IBM
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#250055 - 06/26/12 05:55 PM Re: Spam abuse [Re: Jake]
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Originally Posted By: Jake
Originally Posted By: Undecided
Quote:
How many Uber clients do you build cabinets for?


If he doesn't build cabinets for uber rich guys, then I bet he builds cabinets for guys who do work for uber rich guys. Those uber rich guys pay them cash for their labor commodity, which in turn is used to purchase Karl's labor commodity.

I work for an insanely rich guy. His net worth was about $35mil this year. He provides me a great living in return for my labor commodity. (Along with 5000 other employees - his company started with like 20, back in 1996 btw)

My Dad was a construction worker - built the DC metro, then sold life insurance door to door during the doldrums of the 70's recession after he graduated from a fine school with a great liberal arts degree. He ended up becoming the executive vice president of the largest custom home builder in America - by selling homes to mostly uber-rich people. He employed thousands of workers to get this done, and in the process, provided his family a great living.

Liberals hate the term "trickle down" economics - as well they should. The mainstream media has led you to believe that all of the rich people take their dollar beels and stuff them under their mattresses, or shred them into confetti for some extravagant display of their wealth at a friend's dinner party. I don't know for sure what this view of wealth and economics is based on, but I have a good feeling that its motivated by jealousy.


You kinda make the liberal's point with the bit I highlighted above.

If you have a fire that heavily damages a forest (or a financial melt down that damages the economy), the forest doesn't get healthy again by making the big trees bigger. Oh, the big trees would like everyone to think so now that there is less competition - but it's the little trees (small business) that revitalize the forest. The small businesses in this country are capable of some really smart innovation if they can keep getting some daylight.

And as to your last point, the truth is that middle and lower income people inject a SIGNIFICANTLY larger percentage of their income back into the economy that the rich elite.


You'll notice I did not drag you into this, you found it all by yourself. laugh
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#250057 - 06/26/12 06:01 PM Re: Spam abuse [Re: pgp]
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So now we're talking about logging and de-forrestation? I don't get it.
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