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#94349 - 01/12/07 11:45 PM Re: F12 design and development [Re: Dermot]
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Dermot,

Can je dig up some info or pics on the Dart 12 ?

Would love to know more about it.

Especially the basic specs and anything that would give a brief history of the class or comment on how this boat sailed.


Wouter


Edited by Wouter (01/12/07 11:51 PM)
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#94350 - 01/12/07 11:57 PM Re: F12 design and development [Re: waynemarlow]
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Hey Wouter and Co, the best thing you guys can do is publish a F12 box rule based on the F16 project ( which I suspect is already complete but not published )






Darn, I was hoping to keep that a secret

I'll give you guys a hint. With a boat this small, the right specs are absolutely critical.

Wouter
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#94351 - 01/13/07 12:02 AM Re: F12 design and development [Re: Wouter]
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Dermot,

Can je dig up some info or pics on the Dart 12 ?

Would love to know more about it.

Especially the basic specs and anything that would give a brief history of the class or comment on how this boat sailed.


Wouter




I had a look online yesterday and this is all I could find: http://www.multihullsmag.com/boats/boatlists/cats_up_to_20_feet.htm
I will look through some old files tomorrow and see what I can find. I think that it looked like a small Dart 18 and 15.
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#94352 - 01/13/07 12:22 AM Re: F12 design and development [Re: Dermot]
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Wouter I got your PM. I replied, but your box is full. Anyway, I will check out the Dart 12 and see what I can find.
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#94353 - 01/13/07 12:26 AM Re: F12 design and development [Re: phill]
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Dermot,
I think the answer is to come up with a super simple design to build. This would also be super cheap to build.
The quicker and easier and cheaper it can be built the more likely it will work to bring people/children into the sport.

I think quick, easy and cheap much more important than performance for the first timers.

Now if they are silly enough to come back to build another they will have some building confidence and sailing experience and hopefully both were pleasant on the first attempt and will want something much more refined.

Now most of us have had pleanty of experience with numerous boat designs and have developed a more refined taste that would not be satisfied with what a first timer would want.

To make something like this happen I think you need to get people together to do this as a social activity so they can be built in groups/numbers. Sailing clubs may be a fertile ground/venue. The clubs could run some adds and manage the building projects.
You could pitch it "dads and mums come and learn some boat building and provide a thrill machine for your young children".

Regards,
Phill



Phill,
I agree completely. Maybe when the grandchildren come along, you guys will have sorted the design out and I will have time to get building !
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#94354 - 01/13/07 12:55 AM Re: F12 design and development [Re: Dermot]
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Dermot,
I'm taking about something simpler than the shapes Wouter and John have drawn.
A "Super Simple" 12 ft cat could be drawn up with building instructions in a couple of days and a couple of weekends to build plus painting if thought out carefully.
So I suppose you're right, it could be done by the time the grand kids come along.
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#94355 - 01/13/07 12:59 AM Re: F12 design and development [Re: Dermot]
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The best thing would be if a big company with lots of advertising money supported it.That may be a bit further down the track imagine 2000 little cats spread around the globe advertising CATSAILOR or SUBWAY!!!!!
If only I owned a massive international company.
But I might be just dreaming?

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#94356 - 01/13/07 02:54 AM Re: F12 design and development
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#94357 - 01/13/07 07:41 AM Re: F12 design and development [Re: phill]
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I'm taking about something simpler than the shapes Wouter and John have drawn




Phil,

Do you have a shape in mind, if so are you willing to share it with the forum?

Gareth


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#94358 - 01/13/07 09:04 AM Re: F12 design and development [Re: phill]
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I'm taking about something simpler than the shapes Wouter and John have drawn.





Phill is definately the man to talk to in the way of hulls and building them.

My hull plan is known, but more interesting is the fact that I spend by far more time designing the other parts. Here there are a few tricky issues that needs to be solved.

I must admit that I wasn't up to designing the whole 12 ft cat in only a couple of days. At least not one that would succeed on the crucial points.

Wouter
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