Hey Mark, I'd appreciate it if you could address some of my questions regarding your last post. I apologize for this one being so long. I really believe we are trying to work this out to everyone's satisfaction.

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Look I will say it again.... "Fix themselves over time"...demonstrates your lack of integrity.


Whoa dude. I am trying to get the ratings more realistic - how does that show a lack of integrity? The system works by data being fed to it - that takes time. Could you elaborate?

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7% differences is not a small adjustment... Volunteer to race on the level playing field... report the data.


Race on a level playing field with who? F18, CFR20, N20, H16?? Not sure what this means either. If you mean just go out an race in a bunch of Open regattas and turn in the numbers, then I get you. Otherwise, I'd like to understand what you mean.

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FYI,

The one up and two up rating designations are historical and the purpoe is to make life easy for the community.


Wouldn't one rating be simpler?

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The Dart 18 is the example to look at.

The class rules...state that the uni... one up and the sloop 2 up are equivalent.n (sound familiar)

Fact of the matter is... nobody sailing in light winds of the USA believe this.... So... the class rules were ignored and the PN committe for the benefit of the sailors... added the one up and two up rating. The Uni rating is very slow..


Was the Dart 18 Class Association included on the discussion, for the benefit of the sailors - of course?

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Then the Hobie 17.... added a jib... (sport)

Then the nacra 5.5 became a sloop and a uni... (with a larger stick).

So... the tradition has been to list the same boat twice when it has a signficant confiuration change. It simply makes life easy on the scorekeeper.


Each one of these changes altered these boats out of the original class rules. A new rating HAD to be established because the corrections would have been too time consuming to calculate.

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Currently,
EG... the Hobie FX1... is EXACTLY the same as the F16.
three configurations.


Do all three FX1 configuration's race head to head at class events? or are they separate classes? This is an important distinction, imo.

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When one was dropped from the table... the ONLY US Sailor complained to have it added back....


If there are enough scores being submitted for that rating on a yearly basis, then he has the right to know why it was dropped. Again, my opinion.

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The Taipan had SEVERAL ratings.
Uni (main only
Sloop (
Spin (all three)
F16 (all three)
F16 uni (main and spin)


The Taipan is also a one design class outside of the F16 rule set. The F16 assoc does not want to make any changes to the Taipan OD ratings. This is a great example of how complicated the committee has made the ratings.

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REMEMBER... the Tables list the boats so that it is EASY for the RC to score a race... Its a pain in the butt to calculate corrections


Then let's make it REALLY simple for F16. Have one rating for F16. It doesn't get any easier than that.

Mark: Hey Tom, what you racing?
Tom: I am sailing F16.
Mark: Which one?
Tom: The one that says....F16.
Mark: Oh, ok - I got it.

Nice and simple.


Tom