Thanks for the advise. I"ve got a twist shackle that the halyard is tied to, then the twist shackle goes on the stainless ring, it's two pieces. My sails are pretty new, used only twice last year, then 4-5 times this year, but I dont think the bolt rope is too big because once the ring unhooks, the sail slides down easy with the halyard line in the sailtrack. I will take some pictures sometime next week and post them so you guys know exactly what I have and can make suggestions of things I can do different. If all else fails, I'll try the "scream and cuss" idea, LOL... Thanks for the help so far.