I would say that it would be impossible to use catsailor.com as a Hobie 16 forum, and kudos to heavyair14 for starting one up for New England...oh yes, it makes one really want to post on this site when you are derided, ridiculed, and talked down to. One would hope that at the very least the web administrators would steer clear of the fracas and not say things to the posters like "Give me a break."