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Re: Multi-sport Lifejacket [Re: MauganN20] #100914
04/11/07 07:35 AM
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I've got an Astral Norge its a kayaking pfd. It uses a different kind of filling. kapok (sp) it's really soft. I don't know if it hold you face up but all the boyancy is really high, and it sits really close to the body. It's like wearing a big hug all day. Clears the hook on a harness well. I would think the less complicated the better.


I'm boatless.
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Re: Multi-sport Lifejacket [Re: Karl_Brogger] #100915
04/11/07 08:46 AM
04/11/07 08:46 AM
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West Michigan
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I though kapok was banned about 10 years ago by the CG, something about getting waterlogged easily.

Re: Multi-sport Lifejacket [Re: F17_129] #100916
04/11/07 09:25 AM
04/11/07 09:25 AM
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I bought it 3 years ago. I don't know. New techniques? It's really comfortable. Doesn't have a funky odor, or weigh more than it should, or when it was new. Hopefully they fixed the issue.


I'm boatless.
Re: Multi-sport Lifejacket [Re: MauganN20] #100917
04/11/07 09:27 AM
04/11/07 09:27 AM
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Lorain,Ohio
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No self Infalting device!!! That would be funny tho! First big wave and POOOF!
Here is my Logic or lack there of! After trying all of our old Hobie jackets, Musto vests and a brand new MTI Orleans kayak vest none of them would float me face up!!! The MTI was the best with all its flotation hi-on the chest and very thick at chest. The MTI was great paddling but sucked for getting on the hook. In flat water it would not roll me face up! Once on my back it was pretty good at keeping me there!
So if I had a normal Class III Pfd of this type and get knocked out! all they are going to find is a body in a nice jacket, UNLESS I was lucky enough to land on my back!
As I mentioned before I am having seizures that come on slow and leave my left side worthless! So I am hoping that if I have one on the water I will be able to pull the rip chord have my fancy jacket inflate to 23.5lbs!! that will give me enough time to chill and wait for my body to come back!
Yes I will have to test and maintain the Co2 device for all of this to work when needed.
So that's my theory at least!
If I do come across a jacket that I can sail in and will save my butt, then i will get it! It's only money! Right???

Re: Multi-sport Lifejacket [Re: F17_129] #100918
04/11/07 10:33 AM
04/11/07 10:33 AM
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West Michigan
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I though kapok was banned about 10 years ago by the CG, something about getting waterlogged easily.


I guess I should check on these things, huh. It wasn't banned, but the kapok should be sealed in some way because kapok has the possibility of becoming waterlogged.

Re: Multi-sport Lifejacket [Re: root] #100919
04/11/07 11:15 AM
04/11/07 11:15 AM
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Detroit, MI
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No Coast Guard Type III PFD (the kind most of us wear) or Type V (inflatable) will float you face up when you're wearing a trapeze harness.

ISAF Rule 43.1(b) says (in part):"A hiking or trapeze harness shall have positive buoyancy and shall not weigh more than 2 kilograms, except that class rules may specify a higher weight up to 4 kilograms."

So where is most of this "positive buoyancy"? On your butt.

Try floating relaxed in a swimming pool dressed in full gear. The stable floating position is face-down, butt up.

Re: Multi-sport Lifejacket [Re: mbounds] #100920
04/11/07 11:28 AM
04/11/07 11:28 AM
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Shhhhh!

Soon we'll have the gubberment telling us that we need to wear those arm floatie things while sailing!

Re: Multi-sport Lifejacket [Re: MauganN20] #100921
04/11/07 11:42 AM
04/11/07 11:42 AM
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Lorain,Ohio
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I have heard some folks talking out of their A** and that might be where they breath as well!
Butt seriously!! If I was not having issues I would have one of the minimal jackets with flotation lower! they are great for kiteboarding and kayaking! especially when you are trying to get your head above the surface when floundering! It's like sitting on one of those foam noodles! not much there but really helps one float hi.
At least that's my take on it!

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