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Re: What's the deal with the F word? [Re: Dermot] #102330
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Re: What's the deal with the F word? [Re: Dermot] #102331
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BUT, I have noticed this for some time (No offence Mary) If things are quiet on the forum, business being business, Mary will start a thread to get the numbers up, "What's the deal with the F Word", Sailing for absolutely everybody", "How many regattas...", "Why have a multihull..", etc. As we say in Ireland, "More power tcha Mary"

Thank you, Dermot. I have occasionally done that, but it never occurred to me that it had anything to do with business. It is just that sometimes the forum gets boring to me with all the techno-talk. You guys apparently don't want women on the forum -- but I do. So sometimes I try to come up with topics of more general interest.

In the case of the sailing video, a friend from Ohio sent it to me, and I couldn't remember if I had seen it on the forum, so I just thought I would share it. Sorry.

In the case of the F word thread, I just felt the need to vent about it. And from reading the responses on this thread, I think some men don't realize that many women (at least all the women I know) consider the word to mean rape. It is a term that suggests violence, usually against women.

Re: What's the deal with the F word? [Re: Mary] #102332
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....I think some men don't realize that many women (at least all the women I know) consider the word to mean rape. It is a term that suggests violence, usually against women.


From the Urban Dictionary (which would provide a more recent use of the word):

1. The universally recognized "F word"
2. N. Implying complete and utter confusion
3. N. a really stupid person
4. V. To procreate
5. adj. Can be used to modify any word for more passion
6. Int. Expresses disgust
7. Int. Expresses complete suprise and joy
8. adv. Can be used to make a command more urgent


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Re: What's the deal with the F word? [Re: tback] #102333
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I knew somebody would come up with things like that. Those are the ways in which some people think they are using the word, and I'm sure it makes them feel better about it.

Doesn't change the perception that women have and the reality of what the word really means.

Re: What's the deal with the F word? [Re: Mary] #102334
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An expletive is not going to keep women and children off the forum. It will not scare them away. Please, please, introduce me to these people who would be so puritan as to be personally offended by an articulation. But maybe I'm just another desensitized American youth.

I'm more insulted by the implication that this word is unique to adult male culture than I would be by it's use.

Re: What's the deal with the F word? [Re: Mary] #102335
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Doesn't change the perception that women have and the reality of what the word really means.
What does the word really mean?

Re: What's the deal with the F word? [Re: Mary] #102336
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It is just that sometimes the forum gets boring to me with all the techno-talk.


I like this forum for all the techno-talk and to hopefully learn something about new boats (to me) and sailing. I just wish there was more of it... <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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Re: What's the deal with the F word? [Re: sarahlala] #102337
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Every second word on the chat rooms and Myspace webpages that my son frequents seems to be a so-called expletive. Use of such adjectives/nouns in these forums doesn't seem to be gender specific.

Is the everyday use of expletives a reflection on the general decline in language skills across the english speaking world, especially amongst generation X and Y's? I suggest it is.

I'd also suggest that the sensibility of very few females would be affronted by such language in the 2000's.

I don't know about the US, but the f-word is widely used in most forms of media in Australia, including free to air TV after 2100 hrs, films, plays and live comedy.

Famous Scottish comdian, Billy Connolly, loves using the f-word. Rodney Rude and Kevin Bloody Wilson are great Oz comedians, that come to mind, who made the use of expletives a key part of their shows, but never in an offensive way to any particular gender, race or creed.

I think it is all a matter of context.

The etymology of the f-word can be found at &searchmode=none.]http://ww...arch=[censored]&searchmode=none.

Re: What's the deal with the F word? [Re: Phile] #102338
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If men don't think it is an offensive word to women, why is it that when a man is talking in mixed company and he inadvertently says the F word, he immediately looks at the women present and apologizes by saying, "Excuse my French"?

Re: What's the deal with the F word? [Re: Mary] #102339
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Wow! You've got your man hater goin' pretty strong!

If I say "[censored]" I'm now a rapist? I'm "guilty" of a crime of violence against women?

If I say something technical, I'm trying to keep women off the forum?

You've been watching too much Dr. Phil.

Re: What's the deal with the F word? [Re: fin.] #102340
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Wow! You've got your man hater goin' pretty strong!

If I say "[censored]" I'm now a rapist? I'm "guilty" of a crime of violence against women?

If I say something technical, I'm trying to keep women off the forum?

You've been watching too much Dr. Phil.

What in the hell are you talking about? <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

Re: What's the deal with the F word? [Re: Mary] #102341
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Read your own posts.

Re: What's the deal with the F word? [Re: fin.] #102342
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No. YOU read them.

Re: What's the deal with the F word? [Re: Mary] #102343
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On the new Battlestar Galactica (great show btw), in the future, they've invented the word "Frack" so they can say it on TV. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

(as well as a few other strange cultural inventions)


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Re: What's the deal with the F word? [Re: Jake] #102344
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[quote]On the new Battlestar Galactica (great show btw), in the future, they've invented the word "Frack" so they can say it on TV. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> /quote]

Say WHAT on TV? It still begs the question.

Re: What's the deal with the F word? [Re: Jake] #102345
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Mary,
I've read with interest this thread and I must tell you I've never heard that from the woman's viewpoint this word means rape or violence against woman. That has given me pause.
My father passed away 20 years ago but I can hear him clearly telling me "try to live your life as a gentleman. Never use language that you wouldn't want to say to your mother to her face.".
I don't think I ever have used it on this forum (and probably wouldn't anyway) but I think I'll try to wipe it from my vernacular completely. Just because.....

Greg


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Re: What's the deal with the F word? [Re: Jake] #102346
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On the new Battlestar Galactica (great show btw), in the future, they've invented the word "Frack" so they can say it on TV. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

(as well as a few other strange cultural inventions)


Yes, good show, I am surprised that it is as good as it is. As for "frack" it gets on my nerves because everytime they say it I know it is them not saying the real word. I would just assume they say the real word.

Re: What's the deal with the F word? [Re: Mary] #102347
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On the new Battlestar Galactica (great show btw), in the future, they've invented the word "Frack" so they can say it on TV. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


What is "it" that they can say on TV? It still begs the question. [/quote]

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Re: What's the deal with the F word? [Re: Mary] #102348
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We say "Excuse my French" because we hate the French, not the women present, oh, and we would like to rape the French, obviously. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

So Mary, when you are suddenly subjected to a bad situation, what do you say? Everyone says something.

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Re: What's the deal with the F word? [Re: Timbo] #102349
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In most situations I say, oh my gosh, or oh my god, or doggone it, or for heaven's sake, or, golly, or darn it, gee whiz, or for Pete's sake, or oh shoot, or jeez or heck. If I am REALLY stressed, I will say, Jesus or even Jesus Christ. And if I am REALLY, REALLY stressed, I will say, "Oh, [censored]." (Uh-oh, I just realized Rick probably has that word censored. s-h-i-t. I don't know why that would be censored, because I don't see anything wrong with that, having grown up on a poultry farm with a lot of chicken, uh, manure.)

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