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Re: Why do we sail 400lb boats.......... [Re: Wouter] #105744
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Now do all this stuff with a 200 lbs boat and you'll know what we are talking about.


Then do it on a 165lb boat.

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Re: Why do we sail 400lb boats.......... [Re: bvining] #105745
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Then do it on a 165lb boat.


A doublehanded sloop rig for 165 lbs ? Great ! Which class is that ?


Wouter


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Re: Why do we sail 400lb boats.......... [Re: Wouter] #105746
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‘I don't understand this whole argument about 400-pound boats. Rick and I sailed a 400-pound boat (the Hobie 18) for 15 years and never had any problem whatsoever moving it around on land, getting it on and off the trailer, righting it -- just the two of us, who weighed combined under 290 lbs. And we could rig or de-rig the boat in 15 minutes.”

Mary, I have a couple of sound tract suggestions to go with your post…LOL

I think I hear Bruce Springsteen singing “Glory Days” in the background.

Or how about this one…”Those were the days my friend, we thought they never end, we’d sing and dance forever and a day…We’d do just what we choose, We’d fight and never lose, those were the days, oh yes those were the days….” (Can’t remember who sang that one…)

Regards,
Bob

Re: Why do we sail 400lb boats.......... [Re: Seeker] #105747
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Re: Why do we sail 400lb boats.......... [Re: Seeker] #105748
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Or how about this one…”Those were the days my friend, we thought they never end, we’d sing and dance forever and a day…We’d do just what we choose, We’d fight and never lose, those were the days, oh yes those were the days….” (Can’t remember who sang that one…)


Terry Jacks with "Seasons in the Sun" i guess. Songs theme might be fitting to your post, or perhaps not.. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


Edit: Gahh. something bugged me about this, and it was of course not Terry Jacks. It was someone I have never heard of, Mary Hopkins.. http://artists.letssingit.com/mary-hopkins-lyrics-those-were-the-days-my-friend-v7x2lgm

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Re: Why do we sail 400lb boats.......... [Re: Seeker] #105749
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I'm sorry. I shouldn't even have mentioned it -- I forgot that the whole subject was thoroughly covered last month in "Whats up with 400 pound boats?????" I didn't mean to start it all over again.

By the way, I freely admit that I am older than dirt. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

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Re: Why do we sail 400lb boats.......... [Re: MauganN20] #105750
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I wonder if Mischa's uber-fastness will wear off on my boat when he sails it for 500 miles <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
no..

Re: Why do we sail 400lb boats.......... [Re: BobG] #105751
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Thanks for the optimist viewpoint there Bob!

Re: Why do we sail 400lb boats.......... [Re: Wouter] #105752
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A doublehanded sloop rig for 165 lbs ? Great ! Which class is that ?


Who said anything about a sloop?

Uni's rule

We dont need no stinking jib.

Re: Why do we sail 400lb boats.......... [Re: bvining] #105753
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Bill:

So how has your DK-17 been sailing? How are you doing aganst the other boats?

Doug

Re: Why do we sail 400lb boats.......... [Re: bvining] #105754
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Jibs are just a fad anyway.

Re: Why do we sail 400lb boats.......... [Re: PTP] #105755
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I didn't bring it up this time...
BUT..
The mast is one of the reasons why I actually got rid of the 6.0. That thing was just crazy wrong heavy. I even raised it after taking the boat off the trailer (not a big fan of walking aorund on a mooshy tramp trying to hold the mast steady). I guess I could have put some contraption on there to make raising easier though. The HT mast is really light, almost to the point where you get in trouble because the wind takes it so easily but I can hold the mast up at the heaviest point when raising it with one hand while moving lines around and such. I think it is stronger than the 6.0 mast also.
But nuf said cause I think we done this befo


As far as metal sticks go, the 6.0 mast ain't bad at all. My H-18 mast felt worse. If you really want to bust your discs, step a Hobie-21 mast - I think they weighed as much as the rest of the boat!

Re: Why do we sail 400lb boats.......... [Re: MauganN20] #105756
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You will be faster after he has sailed it. 2 reasons;

1] he will set it up well

2] you will know that it is set up well and you will sail more confidently


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Re: Why do we sail 400lb boats.......... [Re: Mary] #105757
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[By the way, I freely admit that I am older than dirt. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> [/quote]

Mary, we've not yet met, but I have spent some time with Rick, and I seem to recall him saying that when HE started sailing, the "Dead Sea" was only sick ! <Grin>


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Re: Why do we sail 400lb boats.......... [Re: MUST429] #105758
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[By the way, I freely admit that I am older than dirt. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />


Mary, we've not yet met, but I have spent some time with Rick, and I seem to recall him saying that when HE started sailing, the "Dead Sea" was only sick ! <Grin> [/quote]
Yep, that sounds like Rick. But there are hordes of baby boomers close on our heels.

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