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#106928 05/14/07 02:43 PM 05/14/07 02:43 PM |
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Posts: 1,253 Columbia South Carolina, USA | Bill Hendix at mainsail marine in greenville SC 864-299-1092, he's the man in the Southeast. Fellow catsailor and all around honest good guy, ask anyone.
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#106932 05/14/07 07:53 PM 05/14/07 07:53 PM |
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Posts: 263 SC | I re did my N-20 with gel, in hindsight I might would have just painted. Just for information I know Bill Hendrix mostly paints with Imron (sp?). He'll do gelcoat if you beg but his work is absolutely top-notch.
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#106938 05/15/07 06:59 AM 05/15/07 06:59 AM |
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | What about using epoxy, then sanding it as smooth as glass?
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#106942 05/15/07 10:26 AM 05/15/07 10:26 AM |
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Posts: 2,074 Northfield,NH USA | What is wrong with your hulls other than they aren't shiny? Are they shiny when they are wet?
I had GREAT luck with Vertglass last year and that was easier than painting even. Mine were just oxidized and Vertglass solved my problem when I too was thinking I needed to re-gelcoat. Waxing just wasn't doing it for me. Jake put me onto the Vertglass and if you do a search for it you can see results from a number of us with shiny hulls. Good luck. P.S. $ 75 bucks and The Catsailor on-line store carrys it or else Murrays does.
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#106943 05/15/07 01:15 PM 05/15/07 01:15 PM |
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Posts: 305 toronto, canada | "gel is not supost to be applied out of the mold any way"
Just because the vast majority of gelcoat is used in "female" molding doesn't mean it is not suitable for exterior surface application. You could say it is not amateur friendly, but that doesn't mean it doesn't have its place in hull refinishing.
The obvious problem with gelcoat is that it takes different techniques and equipment that most people are not familiar with. It might not be as "easy" as painting...but it is easier to repair. Most of the really good Polyurethanes like Awlgrip that have high abrasion resistance but can not be "buffed out", so seamless repairs require repainting the entire hull...those paints that can be “buffed out” do not have the abrasion resistance that gel coat gives. A gelcoat finish gives you the best of both...easily repairable and good abrasion resistance. A skilled applicator with proper equipment and product can produce results that rival a brand new boat.
Regards, Bob bob, after having been a boatbuilder for 18 odd years, there is no way i would shoot gel out of mold except for small repairs. i would not do a whole boat. to shoot the whole boat with gel and have it look good you need to sand the whole boat to get the gel to stick, spray the gel, wet sand the gel with 320, 400, 600, then buff. somewhere in there you will sand through. no doubt about it, no mater how good you are or think you are, you will sand through. so you need to scuff it back up where you will need to blow it back in. then you start to sand in again. well, [censored] chances are you will sand through somewhere close to the repair again. guys that do auto body dont repaint the whole panel for a scratch. | | | Re: Any Gelcoat Finishing Guys Out There?
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#106944 05/15/07 02:05 PM 05/15/07 02:05 PM |
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Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL | Jake shot a new coat of blue gelcoat on his boat now racing up the coast in the Tybee 500.
Yes, it was a lot of sanding and prep work, but isn't that true of any good paint job as well?
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#106945 05/15/07 02:18 PM 05/15/07 02:18 PM |
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Posts: 695 Ft. Pierce, Fl. USA | "bob, after having been a boatbuilder for 18 odd years, there is no way i would shoot gel out of mold except for small repairs. i would not do a whole boat. to shoot the whole boat with gel and have it look good you need to sand the whole boat to get the gel to stick, spray the gel, wet sand the gel with 320, 400, 600, then buff. somewhere in there you will sand through. no doubt about it, no mater how good you are or think you are, you will sand through. so you need to scuff it back up where you will need to blow it back in. then you start to sand in again. well, [censored] chances are you will sand through somewhere close to the repair again." Sorry, I just finished re-gel-coating my 24' Seabird inside and out...that was like doing 6 twenty foot cats at the same time...it can be done, and is done...I don't know if you are familiar with, or have used the Duratec products, but they changed the whole viability of using gelcoat for refinishing. I am not trying to dismiss your boatbuilding experience, but I have been using fiberglass for 41 years, and have also been in professional boatbuilding. It may not be the most popular way to refinish; it certainly is a viable alternative to paint. Regards, Bob Here is my proof...does this look like the side of a 1972 hull that has baked in the Florida sun its entire life? Please excuse the dirt on the hull...I just poped outside to take this picture and didn't have a chance to wash the boat first.... | | |
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