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Tornado Jib sheeting points #10734
09/19/02 07:03 AM
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Can someone post a close up or recommend a website that depicts the specifics of the Tornado transverse sheeting arrangement?



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Eric



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Re: Tornado Jib sheeting points [Re: arbo06] #10735
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What kind of boat and what year was it rigged. Are you using a wire system or loops in your tramp? I recommend reinforcing your tramp and going to loops. Its fairly cheap and your crew will love you for it.



I can send pictures of the loop system. I also have a Marstrom wire system I can try and describe

Re: Tornado Jib sheeting points [Re: carlbohannon] #10736
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I am interested in the tramp loop system, seems to be far less deck clutter that way....


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Re: Tornado Jib sheeting points [Re: carlbohannon] #10737
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Hey Carl,

I'm thinking about doing the same thing. If you could send me a picture as well, that would be great. I sliced my foot open the other day on the wire block and have decided that's it on my boat. I'm thinking of just taking it to a sailmaker and having nylon strapping sewn to the tramp for reinforcement and then just lacing the tramp through the jib wire holes in the hulls.



By the way, what kind of mast rotation setup are you using??



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Re: Tornado Jib sheeting points [Re: Todd Berget] #10738
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We had the same setup on our two Marstrom boats - now running a self tacker - I have the measurements somewhere (based on Mitch Booth and Bundock/Forbes boats) will dig them out.



You need to be very careful with the eyelets and reinforcing as there is a heap of tension on the eyelets. If you are running a boltrope track on the side of tramp (e.g. Reg White boat), then you have to spread the load so it doesn't rip the boltrope out.



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Re: Tornado Jib sheeting points [Re: simonm] #10739
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The first tramp sheeting system I used was on a NACRA, which has a boltrope tramp. The trick is to attach the ends of the lines to the original jib attach points, the jib traveler cars.



You can also replace the boltrope with slugs which do not pull out or put slugs in the channel and use a Marstrom style tramp.



The slugs in the channel may be the strongest, fastest to install, most repairable tramp made.




Re: Tornado Jib sheeting points [Re: carlbohannon] #10740
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Can anyone attach a picture of the tramp arrangement?


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Re: Tornado Jib sheeting points [Re: arbo06] #10741
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Attached is a picture of the port jib sheet attachment.

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Re: Tornado Jib sheeting points [Re: Todd Berget] #10742
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Mast rotator

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Re: Tornado Jib sheeting points [Re: carlbohannon] #10743
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Thanx Carl, I really appreciate the effort.....I can see my boat in the background...


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Re: Tornado Jib sheeting points [Re: carlbohannon] #10744
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Shouldn't the three points be at an angle with the fwd loop most inboard, and the aft loop most toward the hull?

Re: Tornado Jib sheeting points [Re: arbo06] #10745
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I hope that not your boat. It has not moved in 3 years. It is not tied down and a hurricane may be headed this way. I was thinking about filling it with water and using it as a anchor.

Re: Tornado Jib sheeting points [Re: carlbohannon] #10746
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How far forward of the shroud are your loops?

Re: Tornado Jib sheeting points [Re: carlbohannon] #10747
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Thanks Carl,

Great Help. Question with the rotator setup, is that just a limiter or do you have something rigged to induce rotation??



Thanks.


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Re: Tornado Jib sheeting points [Re: carlbohannon] #10748
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I am thinking about adapting a similar system onto my h-20, when I get a chance I'll post a photo to get feedback from the forum citizens. I thought about tying stainless rings onto a piece of spectra and stringing it between the jib cars.(?)


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Re: Tornado Jib sheeting points [Re: Todd Berget] #10749
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The rotation inducer is part of the mast base. There is an arm on each side of the base connected to the opposite side of the from cross beam via a 3:1.



The neatest part of the system is the outhaul is connected to the rotation limiter. Blow the outhaul and you blow the rotation limiter. When you pull the outhaul back out, you reset the the rotation to it's previous position. When you have to pinch, ease the outhaul/rotator and it really powers up.

Re: Tornado Jib sheeting points [Re: arbo06] #10750
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pic of idea


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