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Posts: 1,037 Central California | Pleeeeease don't change any of the F16 rules. Leave well enough alone and let the class grow! Slightly heavier boats will be plenty competitive.
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#111977 07/19/07 01:36 AM 07/19/07 01:36 AM |
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I actively and fundamentally oppose any raising of the ready-to-sail weight rules.
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#111978 07/19/07 02:54 AM 07/19/07 02:54 AM |
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I actively and fundamentally oppose any raising of the ready-to-sail weight rules.
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Me too. If this were to happen the F16 would be a laughing stock. "oh, look, the The F16 has got lardier, how funny is that, everyone is making their boats lighter and the F16 went then other way - how silly".
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Posts: 404 Chattanooga, TN | THE SOUL REASON we got the boat is because of its weight, our weight, and NO minimum crew weight!!!!!
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Posts: 1,246 Orlando, FL | THE SOUL REASON we got the boat is because of its weight, our weight, and NO minimum crew weight!!!!! Are you sure it's "SOUL" -- deeply felt emotion or maybe it's "SOLE" -- being the only one <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Will we sea (see) you at Juan's Good Time, Sept 8-9 ?
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Posts: 404 Chattanooga, TN | THE SOUL REASON we got the boat is because of its weight, our weight, and NO minimum crew weight!!!!! Are you sure it's "SOUL" -- deeply felt emotion or maybe it's "SOLE" -- being the only one <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Will we sea (see) you at Juan's Good Time, Sept 8-9 ? Well it really isn't the "only one" reason, yes we feel a "deep emotion" with the boat, and I am a math/science person so my spelling/english stinks....So I am not sure which it is. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> As for Juana's--CatFest in Charlotte, NC falls on the same weekend. To support our division and because it is much closer we are going there. But we would really like to get together with you all sometime. BTW Good news!!!!! By next weekend we will have another Blade in Chattanooga.
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#111982 07/19/07 02:08 PM 07/19/07 02:08 PM |
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Posts: 954 Mumbles Y.C Wales U.K | Here in the UK the A Class is marketed as "the fastest singlehanded racing boats in the world" (Y&Y June 1,2007) If that is true then at present F16's must be the fastest single handers downwind in the world. I don't think it will be to long until a F16 beats an A at a relevant regatta to take the complete title, that is for as long as we don't add any unnecessary weight to the platform. Mind you at that time the A's will probably argue that F16's aren't strictly singlehanders!!! MP*MULTIHULLS | | | Re: weight of f16
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Posts: 461 Sydney Australia | The rumour is that Rohan Veal (current Moth World Champion) is beating Glenn Ashby (current A-class World Champion) around the course!
I don't think A's can claim to be the fastest single handers anymore...! Comparing a foiler with a displacement / planing sailboat doesn't seem right to me. | | | Re: weight of f16
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | Raise the weight?? <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> I'd rather see us put foiler boards and rudders on the F16's and then go race with the Moths! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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Posts: 1,479 Thailand | But the Taipan and Mossies have been produced for many many years. Unfortunately the so called “big manufactures” are unwilling to do anything more then regurgitate old hull designs and use primitive production techniques performed by poorly supervised unskilled labor. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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Posts: 1,012 South Australia | That claim by the A class association is now very suspect when the Yachting Victoria yardsticks list both the A class and the F16 (for F16 both 2 up AND SINGLEHANDED) at 71. These yardsticks are based on real performance results IN A VARIETY of ACTUAL races, and as such is a very good representation of their true performance accreditation against each other, ON THE WATER. Even more so as in those A class results there have featured some of, if not the best A class sailers in the world, whereas the F16 sailers, although good sailers, have not had the benefit of the same extensive close F 16 "class" competition over long hard years of top tuning/racing that the A's have. A conservative analogy would be that, all things being equal, the single-handed F16 performances will only improve over time whereas the A class will in all probability remain relatively the same. Even so, as it stands as of this moment, the F16 single handed IS currently rated exactly the same as the A class, ergo, the A class cats are NOT the fastest single handed cats in the world today. Their statement is false. | | |
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