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My new toy! #119722
10/09/07 12:20 AM
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Well after a 6 month search I finally have a spinnaker rig for my 5.2. It will be rigged this weekend and possibly even make it to the water Sunday.

It is an Inter 17 rig so it should fit well on the 5.2. I got a great deal on everything and have almost everything I need to get it rigged!

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Once you go cat you never go back! Nacra 5.2 (Elsies)#1499, running an inter17 spin!
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Re: My new toy! [Re: gree2056] #119723
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the pole and snuffer.

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Once you go cat you never go back! Nacra 5.2 (Elsies)#1499, running an inter17 spin!
Re: My new toy! [Re: gree2056] #119724
10/09/07 12:22 AM
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all the little stuff

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Once you go cat you never go back! Nacra 5.2 (Elsies)#1499, running an inter17 spin!
Re: My new toy! [Re: gree2056] #119725
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Make sure you take lots of pictures when it is on the cat.

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Re: My new toy! [Re: airborne] #119726
10/09/07 12:53 AM
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I will, I have all morning off tomorrow so I might do some of the easy stuff then. I would love to have it sailing soon!!!


Once you go cat you never go back! Nacra 5.2 (Elsies)#1499, running an inter17 spin!
Re: My new toy! [Re: gree2056] #119727
10/09/07 08:04 AM
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Gree, that halyard is gonna stretch very badly. I suggest you upgrade the halyard line to a lower stretch line.

The red line is New England "Sta-Set," and will stretch to the point that when the spinnaker is loaded (if you have wind), it will significantly change the luff tension on the spin. You don't want that. It's load rating is also not nearly as high as a higher-tech line.
It is important to use good line in the right places.


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Re: My new toy! [Re: NCSUtrey] #119728
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...but it will hold the spinnaker up!


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Re: My new toy! [Re: NCSUtrey] #119729
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I agree with Trey - thats what I thought when I first looked at the pic too. I made the same mistake when I first set up a spin on my 6.0. It is a long line and relatively highly loaded and sta-set that length will probably stretch, what, 10 inches or so?

Re: My new toy! [Re: gree2056] #119730
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Sweet Gree! Really like the alum skunk head, nice. Take your time and ask questions as you go. You don't want to bore holes only to find they are in the wrong place.

Re: My new toy! [Re: gree2056] #119731
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Well after a 6 month search I finally have a spinnaker rig for my 5.2. It will be rigged this weekend and possibly even make it to the water Sunday.

It is an Inter 17 rig so it should fit well on the 5.2. I got a great deal on everything and have almost everything I need to get it rigged!


You should have lots of fun... Ive been sailing my 5.2 with spin for 3 years now! It's an I-17 kite and rig...

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Re: My new toy! [Re: Fearless_Rider] #119732
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Hey Fearless,

Where do you have your spin blocks, that has been the toughest thing, i can't find that info anywhere and since you have the exact same rig you should know.

Thanks

Thanks for the advice about the halyard, I had assumed it would be okay because the other guy had used it for years, but I guess i might have to replace it.


Once you go cat you never go back! Nacra 5.2 (Elsies)#1499, running an inter17 spin!
Re: My new toy! [Re: gree2056] #119733
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Its relevant to the spin. Install the chute and attach sheet lines. Pull the lines back toward the hull, you want to sheet thru the middle of the chute so the foot and leech harden at the same time. Too much pull on the foot or the leech will affect sail trim. May need someone to hold the sheet so you can step back and examine. If you are lucky the shrouds will attach where the block needs to be and no holes will be drilled.

Re: My new toy! [Re: WindyHillF20] #119734
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Yeah, I know it is relevant, that is why I am asking Fearless, he has the same boat with the same rig.


Once you go cat you never go back! Nacra 5.2 (Elsies)#1499, running an inter17 spin!
Re: My new toy! [Re: WindyHillF20] #119735
10/09/07 12:07 PM
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Its relevant to the spin. Install the chute and attach sheet lines. Pull the lines back toward the hull, you want to sheet thru the middle of the chute so the foot and leech harden at the same time. Too much pull on the foot or the leech will affect sail trim. May need someone to hold the sheet so you can step back and examine. If you are lucky the shrouds will attach where the block needs to be and no holes will be drilled.


Dead on! This is how I determined my spin block locations. Turns out to be about 4 inches infront of the shrouds. I can measure tonight if I think of it. I hard mounted eye straps with #10 screws and nuts. I used carbo autoratchet blocks with stand up springs too. I also reinforced the fiberglass on the interior of the hull lip through the forward deck port. Bear in mind, if you use a longer pole, the spin block location will change also. I have a standard (west marine) 9' 4" long aluminum tube 2 inch diameter, .063 wall thickness. I bought the Performance EO snuffer head which slides into the tube perfectly. Did I mention I have 6 more tubes for sale...LOL!

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Re: My new toy! [Re: gree2056] #119736
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Hey Fearless,

Where do you have your spin blocks, that has been the toughest thing, i can't find that info anywhere and since you have the exact same rig you should know.

Thanks

Thanks for the advice about the halyard, I had assumed it would be okay because the other guy had used it for years, but I guess i might have to replace it.


Mark Batchelor was using stay-set? I don't see it.


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Re: My new toy! [Re: Fearless_Rider] #119737
10/10/07 07:20 AM
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4 inches infront of the shrouds. I can measure tonight if I think of it.



I measured last night, the magic number is 6-1/2 inches in front of the shroud attachment tangs. This is to the centerline of the eyestraps which hold my outer spin blocks. I also have 2 smaller blocks mounted on the front cross beam which the spin sheet passes through after routing through the outer ratcheting blocks.


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Re: My new toy! [Re: Fearless_Rider] #119738
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Thanks Fearless, I will test it a few times before I mount them there, but that is what I needed to know.

How have you liked having the spin on the 5.2? Has it worked out well for you?


Once you go cat you never go back! Nacra 5.2 (Elsies)#1499, running an inter17 spin!
Re: My new toy! [Re: gree2056] #119739
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Thanks Fearless, I will test it a few times before I mount them there, but that is what I needed to know.

How have you liked having the spin on the 5.2? Has it worked out well for you?


The spin is a whole lot of fun, and really pays off at times... I like to sail with the I-17 kite in distance races as it is small enough to cover more points or angles of sail. I have a larger Sabre kite for buoy racing or known dead down wind courses. With the small I-17 kite, there is some overlap between the sailing angles with the jib or spin up. Depending on wind conditions, sailing with just the jib is faster leaving the spin snuffed in the sock (beam reach). However, the 5.2 is not an I-17R so there are some major differences. Basically, the 5.2 doesnt have enough forward buoyancy to support hot reaching a spin very well. Definitely pitch pole prone. Never the less, you will get downhill faster with the kite flying!

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