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Re: Australian F16 Event Notice [Re: Tim_Mozzie] #124536
04/06/08 10:54 PM
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I would like to thank ALL who attended this was a great effort by everyone.I would also like to thank Portland Sailing club for their efforts.Racing was tight all weekend you could of thrown a blanket over the whole fleet. Looking forward to the next event.

Boy those Mozzies are quick down wind.

for those interested
1 Viper (sloop)
2 Blade (cat)
3 Blade (cat)
4 Taipan (cat)
5 Blade (cat)
6 Taipan (sloop)
7 Taipan (sloop)
8 Mozzie (cat)
9 Taipan (sloop)
10 Taipan (cat)
11 Mozzie (cat)
12 Mozzie (cat)

Thanks Again to all Attended.



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Re: Australian F16 Event Notice [Re: ratherbsailing] #124537
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Hi all,

just got home. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

What a great regatta <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Will be working on a right up, but firstly thanks to Gordon and Jenny for organising the location, Portland Y.C. for running a great regatta and the local Taipan sailors that gave their sailing time to go in the start and rescue boats <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

David and Wendy at the Henty Bay Van and Cabin Park for the fantastic hospitality, feeding us all Friday night with the biggest chicken stew ever <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />. Keep breeding those rabbits <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> Any sailors that are down that way make sure you stay and talk sailing with Dave, he has plenty of spare time <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />.

Re: Australian F16 Event Notice [Re: ] #124538
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Hi all,

Gordon sent me the attached results with a bit more detail of boat types. Sure you all want the most info. available <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


F-16 Vic States Portland 5th & 6th.April 2008

Scratch Results Progressive
Sail No. Boat Type Skipper Boat Name State Yacht Club 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Points Position

AUS 113 Viper F-16 Sloop L. Goodall Viper 1 Victoria PMYC 3 1 1 1 3 3 1 1 8 1
AUS 404 Blade F-16 Cat T. Barrett The Pork Hunt South Aust ASC 6 3 3 4 1 1 3 2 13 2
AUS 400 Blade F-16 Cat G. Maskiell Formula Cat Aus Victoria GLYC 1 7 2 6 8 5 4 DNF 25 3
AUS 332 Taipe F-16 Cat D. James ? South Aust ASC 2 2 5 11 DNF 2 9 5 25 4
AUS 405 Blade F-16 Cat M. Towell Vertigo South Aust VHYC 9 9 8 5 2 4 2 4 25 5
AUS 322 Taipan Sloop w/kite* G. Barrett Tasi Oki Victoria FYC 5 5 6 8 7 10 5 3 31 6
AUS 65 Taipan Sloop w/kite* J. McDonald Macatak Victoria FYC 4 8 7 3 6 7 6 6 32 7
1789 Mosquitto Cat w/kite* N. Joiner Immunity Victoria GLYC 7 5 4 9 4 11 11 8 37 8
AUS 334 Taipan Sloop w/kite* C. Johnson 4 Play Victoria FYC DNF 11 9 2 9 8 8 7 43 9
AUS 259 Taipan Cat w/kite ** J. Demeo Where the Fox Victoria AWYC 8 4 11 7 DNF 6 10 DNF 46 10
1775 Mosquitto Cat w/kite* T. Shepperd Karma Cat Victoria GLYC 10 10 10 10 5 9 7 9 50 11
1740 Mosquitto Cat w/kite* M. Kirby Jurassic Karp Victoria WYC DNC DNC DNC 12 10 12 12 10 69 12





* Denotes standard boat with addition of a kite
** Ran old style "pin head" main


Conditions where first 5 races Sat. Flat water shifty gusty offshore wind starting at average 8 knots building to 15kts and dying out to 8 knots again. Last 3 races Sunday on shore winds with small swell and building chop, winds starting av.8 knots building to 12 knots. Nearly all races the wind was strong enough for trapezing upwind nearly all the time, for most sailors. All races windward and returns 2laps with finish times as short as 20 minutes.

Quick conclusions from the regatta from my view point are.

Starts where important with short races, fairly obvious I guess.

The best crewed boat won.

The difference in straight line speed, between different designs in the conditions was negligible.

Between 10 and 15 knots the difference between one up and two up boats is crew work.

One up and two up boats can race very closely.

Trapezing down wind, one or two up is the fastest way <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />, once wind is sufficent, aprox. 10 knots when sailing with swell and only made bigger difference as wind increased to 15 knots. One and two up boats where seen trapezing downwind, sailing 5 degrees lower and faster <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> than those sitting on the side.

Nearly every body had a look at the front at some stage, with many finishes only seconds seperated positions.

The Mossies where allways ready to show the Faster? F16's when they made a mistake, by leading around the first mark on one occasion and passing many down wind <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />.

The South Australians will be hard to beat in the future as they get more experience on F16's. Tony had never sailed a Blade before, Danny had not sailed for 2 months and still recovering from foot operation, Marcus hadn't sailed a Blade since Zandvoort. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />

Re: Australian F16 Event Notice [Re: ] #124539
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Race 1

8-10 knots N
Place Sail No Boat Name Skipper Elapsd
1 400 Formula Cats Aus G Maskiell 22:45
2 332 Red one D James 22:46
3 113 Viper 1 L Goodall 23:17
4 65 Macatak J McDonald 23:26
5 322 Tasi Oki G Barrett 23:27
6 404 The Pork Hunt T Barrett 23:35
7 1789 Immunity N Joiner 25:16
8 259 Wear the Fox Hat J Demeo 25:23
9 405 Vertigo M Towell 26:12
10 1775 Karma Cat T Shepperd 27:03
DNF 334 4 Play C Johnson
DNC 1740 Jurassic Karp M Kirby


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Race 2

8-12 knots N
Place Sail No Boat Name Skipper Elapsd
1 113 Viper 1 L Goodall 27:03
2 332 Red one D James 27:10
3 404 The Pork Hunt T Barrett 27:17
4 259 Wear the Fox Hat J Demeo 28:05
5 322 Tasi Oki G Barrett 28:08
5 1789 Immunity N Joiner 28:08
7 400 Formula Cats Aus G Maskiell 28:22
8 65 Macatak J McDonald 28:23
9 405 Vertigo M Towell 28:26
10 1775 Karma Cat T Shepperd 30:33
11 334 4 Play C Johnson 31:10
DNC 1740 Jurassic Karp M Kirby


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Race 3

12-15 knots N
Place Sail No Boat Name Skipper Elapsd
1 113 Viper 1 L Goodall 20:28
2 400 Formula Cats Aus G Maskiell 22:23
3 404 The Pork Hunt T Barrett 22:29
4 1789 Immunity N Joiner 22:35
5 332 Red one D James 23:03
6 322 Tasi Oki G Barrett 23:28
7 65 Macatak J McDonald 23:32
8 405 Vertigo M Towell 23:34
9 334 4 Play C Johnson 23:35
10 1775 Karma Cat T Shepperd 24:07
11 259 Wear the Fox Hat J Demeo 24:32
DNC 1740 Jurassic Karp M Kirby


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Re: Australian F16 Event Notice [Re: Tim_Mozzie] #124542
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Race 4

15 knots N
Place Sail No Boat Name Skipper Elapsd
1 113 Viper 1 L Goodall 21:03
2 334 4 Play C Johnson 22:16
3 65 Macatak J McDonald 23:06
4 404 The Pork Hunt T Barrett 24:12
5 405 Vertigo M Towell 24:19
6 400 Formula Cats Aus G Maskiell 24:24
7 259 Wear the Fox Hat J Demeo 25:02
8 322 Tasi Oki G Barrett 25:05
9 1789 Immunity N Joiner 25:07
10 1775 Karma Cat T Shepperd 25:09
11 332 Red one D James 25:17
12 1740 Jurassic Karp M Kirby 25:33


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Race 5

13-15 knots N
Place Sail No Boat Name Skipper Elapsd
1 404 The Pork Hunt T Barrett 23:22
2 405 Vertigo M Towell 23:23
3 113 Viper 1 L Goodall 23:33
4 1789 Immunity N Joiner 24:19
5 1775 Karma Cat T Shepperd 24:21
6 65 Macatak J McDonald 24:25
7 322 Tasi Oki G Barrett 24:29
8 400 Formula Cats Aus G Maskiell 24:33
9 334 4 Play C Johnson 26:01
10 1740 Jurassic Karp M Kirby 26:33
DNF 259 Wear the Fox Hat J Demeo
DNF 332 Red one D James


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Race 6

Wind 15 knots at 180 deg
Place Sail No Boat Name Skipper Elapsd
1 404 The Pork Hunt T Barrett 20:29
2 332 Red one D James 21:01
3 113 Viper 1 L Goodall 21:28
4 405 Vertigo M Towell 21:33
5 400 Formula Cats Aus G Maskiell 22:02
6 259 Wear the Fox Hat J Demeo 22:22
7 65 Macatak J McDonald 22:26
8 334 4 Play C Johnson 23:23
9 1775 Karma Cat T Shepperd 24:01
10 322 Tasi Oki G Barrett 25:10
11 1789 Immunity N Joiner 26:02
12 1740 Jurassic Karp M Kirby 27:04


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Race 7

Wind 16 knots at 180 deg
Place Sail No Boat Name Skipper Elapsd
1 113 Viper 1 L Goodall 23:30
2 405 Vertigo M Towell 23:32
3 404 The Pork Hunt T Barrett 24:07
4 400 Formula Cats Aus G Maskiell 24:13
5 322 Tasi Oki G Barrett 24:29
6 65 Macatak J McDonald 24:35
7 1775 Karma Cat T Shepperd 25:05
8 334 4 Play C Johnson 26:07
9 332 Red one D James 26:09
10 259 Wear the Fox Hat J Demeo 26:17
11 1789 Immunity N Joiner 26:19
12 1740 Jurassic Karp M Kirby 29:18


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Re: Australian F16 Event Notice [Re: Tim_Mozzie] #124546
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Race 8

Wind 14 knots at 180 deg
Place Sail No Boat Name Skipper Elapsd
1 113 Viper 1 L Goodall 21:13
2 404 The Pork Hunt T Barrett 22:10
3 322 Tasi Oki G Barrett 22:34
4 405 Vertigo M Towell 22:35
5 332 Red one D James 23:16
6 65 Macatak J McDonald 23:35
7 334 4 Play C Johnson 24:03
8 1789 Immunity N Joiner 24:12
9 1775 Karma Cat T Shepperd 24:16
10 1740 Jurassic Karp M Kirby 27:23
DNF 259 Wear the Fox Hat J Demeo &nbsp
DNF 400 Formula Cats Aus G Maskiell &nbsp


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The sailors

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The start crew

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Leave it up to Aussies to come up with creative sailnumbers and boat names <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> :
"2 - 404 - The Pork Hunt - T Barrett - 22:10"

Re: Australian F16 Event Notice [Re: Tim_Mozzie] #124550
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Thats Laurie at the wheel - Portland Yacht Club Commodore, Brad Hein (Taipan 4.9 Cat), Luke Donovan (Taipan 4.9 Sloop),
And Fred Baker (Flying Fifteen and father of Dennis Baker)

One good story from weekend I think is, I think Col Johnson, broke off a chainplate prior while rigging, these are the screw in type on the later model Taipans, Brad Hein, being a fitter, went to work, Kempe Engineering, and made a new one in half hour, screwed straight in and away they went. The Hein family (Brad, and especially his parents are always the first to jump in and lend a hand and get you going again, have done since I was a kid, sailing juniors. Great people and great friends.


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Re: Australian F16 Event Notice [Re: Tim_Mozzie] #124551
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You guys were not kidding about boats being often only seconds apart !

Wow, looks like some excellent racing !

Nice fleet of 12, nice spread in winds, no blow-outs or drifters for a change.

Well done !

Wouter

P.S. Tim, can you tell us how you made that nice table ?

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Re: Australian F16 Event Notice [Re: Wouter] #124552
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I would like to see the F16 class propose a rule that states Marcus can add a jib to his boat and race one up as a sloop. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />


Re: Australian F16 Event Notice [Re: Tony_F18] #124553
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Quote - Leave it up to Aussies to come up with creative sailnumbers and boat names :
"2 - 404 - The Pork Hunt - T Barrett - 22:10"

He was hunting down a fat pig....... <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Australian F16 Event Notice [Re: Tornado_ALIVE] #124554
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Steve - no jib required....i just sailed like an old dog on the first day & managed to blow out some cobwebs on the second day.

Excellent conditions for F16 racing & boy was it tough going.

The event was clearly won by boat handling, not boat speed.

Something I need more practice at..... <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Australian F16 Event Notice [Re: Wouter] #124555
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Quote
can you tell us how you made that nice table ?


That's just an HTML table included in my post. In the drop down box just above where you enter the text for a post I changed it to "using HTML" (instead of "using UBBCode").


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