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US Sailing/Multihulls #126404
12/16/07 02:01 AM
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I was just reading on the US Sailing website and found this:
MULTIHULLS
While traditional sailing is fun, there is nothing like the thrill and excitement of sailing a multihull, big or small. Multihulls come in quite a variety – there are catamarans (those with two hulls) and trimarans (those with three hulls). They also come in many sizes. For example, catamarans can be as small as 9 feet in length and have been built to over 100 feet. Most smaller cats are referred to as beach cats, running in size from about 13 feet to around 21 feet. There are a great many designs and manufacturers of these exciting craft, but most folks just call them all Hobies – sort of like we all used to call our refrigerators "Frigidaires." You might have seen them blasting along shore lines at awesome speeds with the sailors suspended on trapeze wires from the mast. They are small, fast, exciting and very light.

I was just wondering, do most of you who own NACRA's, marstroms, Prindles, Trac, Inter etc. etc. call them hobies?

I own a solcat 18 and a NACRA 5.7 and I dont call either of them a Hobie.

Maby the multihull council could have them change that and compare the monohulls to Frigidaire's.

It's late and i'm probably a little on edge since I havn't gotten the 5.7 wet yet.

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Re: US Sailing/Multihulls [Re: AzCat] #126405
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I see i have reached Journeyman status, no longer a newbee.
I dont think I will sleep tonight!


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Re: US Sailing/Multihulls [Re: AzCat] #126406
12/16/07 03:49 AM
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By "most folks," I think they are referring to the nonsailing public and to sailors who are not familiar with catamarans. Hobie really has become a generic household word for "beach cat." If I am trying to explain to someone what kind of boats we sail, I don't bother with brands, I just say, "You know, like Hobie Cats," and then they get the picture.

What is more annoying to me is when they pronounce it "hobby" cat. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

Re: US Sailing/Multihulls [Re: AzCat] #126407
12/16/07 10:44 AM
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While traditional sailing is fun

Therein lies part of the problem with the mentality with mainstream US SAILING -- multihull sailing IS traditional sailing. It was just as traditional for the Pacific Islanders as monoslug sailing was for the Europeans.


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Re: US Sailing/Multihulls [Re: peter_nelson] #126408
12/16/07 11:29 AM
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Yeah, i have used that arguement before. Multihulls have been around for as long if not longer than monohulls.


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Re: US Sailing/Multihulls [Re: gree2056] #126409
12/16/07 11:40 AM
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Like this one from the Te Papa museum in New Zealand

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Re: US Sailing/Multihulls [Re: peter_nelson] #126410
12/16/07 11:43 AM
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Historical Perspective,

[Linked Image]

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Multi or mono, you pick.


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Re: US Sailing/Multihulls [Re: peter_nelson] #126411
12/16/07 11:48 AM
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Hi Guys,
I have a Hobie 18 mag and a Prindle 19mx, also I've been crewing on a 43' Tri and I loudly and with pride say that I'm a MULTIHULLER. None of those slow leaning monomorans for me. But most of the time non sailors only know the name "Hobie Cat". It's like saying "can you make me a Zerox copy???" I just take the time to educate them and explain that the proper term is "beach cat". And since Hobie has been doing their HOBIE ONLY crap I am even more vigulent in using the term Beach Catter/Multihuller and do not call myself a Hobie Catter even though I have and still do compete in many Hobie Regettas per year with my TheMightyHobie18. I believe in being inclusive, not exclusive. And as a sidenote, this Hobie Only crap also helped with losing the multihull slot in the Olympics. "Divide and Conquer" that what happened to us, we did not promote a united group for our classification of boats and now we have nothing. So first we have to promote the fact that we are sailors who sail and are MULTIHULLERS!!! All of us no matter what brand of boat we sail, because in the final analysis we all have the same basic issues and need to help each other

Re: US Sailing/Multihulls [Re: HMurphey] #126412
12/16/07 12:25 PM
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And as a sidenote, this Hobie Only crap also helped with losing the multihull slot in the Olympics.
interesting, care to expound on this?

Mary, those really "in the know" don't call them hobby cats, it's "One of them there cat marin sailboats".

Now off to find the box of kleenex.


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Re: US Sailing/Multihulls [Re: _flatlander_] #126413
12/16/07 01:00 PM
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[quote]And as a sidenote, this Hobie Only crap also helped with losing the multihull slot in the Olympics.
interesting, care to expound on this?
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"Divide and Conquer" that what happened to us, we did not promote a united group for our classification of boats and now we have nothing


I think he did expound on his statement.


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Re: US Sailing/Multihulls [Re: TeamTeets] #126414
12/16/07 04:27 PM
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If you look carefully at that photo Mike you will see that in NZ its called a big canoe with a sail and supposidly thats how their nation was foundered. Someone should point out to their national sailing body that all of the old, unfit people who sailed that one are now dead, the modern ones are called beachcats and there are a couple of young and fit sailors there.


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Re: US Sailing/Multihulls [Re: JeffS] #126415
12/16/07 04:31 PM
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Thanks for the clarificaton, my mistake, I was hasty in selecting that picture.


Mike Hensel
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Re: US Sailing/Multihulls [Re: Don_Atchley] #126416
12/16/07 11:21 PM
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Thanks Don A for understanding where I was going with that comment. I think "HOBIE" corp needs to understand that to get a "Hobie" in the Olympics, first you need to have a Olympic Multihull class. To me this is simple basic logic. And it is basic military theory, concentrate your resources, focus them on single goal and bring them to bear on your opponate. Now does "Hobie Only" sound like we multihullers are concentrating our political muscle in the sailing community for our goal of keeping multihull boats in the Olympic Games???

"He who does not study history is destined to repeat it"

Re: US Sailing/Multihulls [Re: HMurphey] #126417
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Hey Mike 220

Would you call that a "SQUARETOP" main on that polynesian uni-rig??? They where really advanced !!!

Re: US Sailing/Multihulls [Re: HMurphey] #126418
12/17/07 12:54 AM
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Dang your right there Murphy.

I think the Man of War also has a square rig.

My FX1 has a square top uni-rig. What a coincidence.


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