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RaceCat RC-16 #130203
01/31/08 03:36 AM
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Anybody who knows how this boat fits regarding the F-16 formula?

http://www.catamaran.com.ar/

I was unable to find much information about their 16 footer. I notice the lack of a jib setup or spi, but??

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Re: RaceCat RC-16 [Re: Rolf_Nilsen] #130204
01/31/08 03:48 AM
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This is an interesting bit from their website:

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CUSTOM BUILT - ALWAYS ONE STEP AHEAD... 1er tabla de Surf Arg, 1er tabla de Wakeboard Arg, 1er Wake boat Arg, 1er F18 LAmerica, 1er F16 LAmerica


John Alani
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Stealth F16s GBR527 and GBR538
Re: RaceCat RC-16 [Re: Jalani] #130205
01/31/08 05:39 AM
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couldn't resist it
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couldn't resist it
theres more intresting than that ,

they are selling at $4500 us , that 2250 £quids over here !!!!!

Downside they got skegs

upside would make a very cost effective trainer youth cat with addition of kite if some one could import them by the container load

There are yachts being imported into uk and its viable .

Re: RaceCat RC-16 [Re: Codblow] #130206
01/31/08 06:05 AM
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Well found!

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Re: RaceCat RC-16 [Re: Jalani] #130207
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[Linked Image] Color is attractive and it's an affordable price! No mast spreaders though. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> Somewhat along the lines of the GCat F16, which I thought was a tremendous design, because it could be an entry level boat, then upgraded to full F16 compliance.

Wonder what it weighs?

Last edited by flatlander18; 01/31/08 08:42 AM.

John H16, H14
Re: RaceCat RC-16 [Re: _flatlander_] #130208
01/31/08 01:07 PM
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[Linked Image]

This photo sure shows why you need a boom. Yikes!

No spreaders, no boom, no jib, no spin, and only 5 battens in the main.
No wonder they can keep the price down.

Re: RaceCat RC-16 [Re: David Parker] #130209
01/31/08 03:34 PM
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Not F-16 ready then.. or at least it looks that way <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
Sad really, it would have been fantastic for the class to have a builder and activity in Latin America. Would probably have been good for the builder as well. When that has been said, it dont look like it would be that hard to convert the platform and make it F-16 compliant. It already have a bridle, so the hulls should be able to take the load. With the prices they are operating with, it could make for a bargain. Anybody up to chatting with the builders? (Probably need to do it in spanish?)

That boomless main dont look very good, unless he sailing some really funky course, but why put the traveller in the middle then..

Re: RaceCat RC-16 [Re: Rolf_Nilsen] #130210
01/31/08 05:18 PM
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Further proof that you get what you pay for.

Re: RaceCat RC-16 [Re: Corksfloat] #130211
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Can't be expensive to add a boom and spreaders really.

Re: RaceCat RC-16 [Re: PTP] #130212
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Can't be expensive to add a boom and spreaders really.


B.O.A.T = "Break Out Another Thousand"

Re: RaceCat RC-16 [Re: Rolf_Nilsen] #130213
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Hi all

I've just answered some mails from USA regarding our 16 feet (F16-ready platform)

So I will transcript it, please fill free to ask anything about the boat:


Hi John


Didn´t answer before cause we were sailing the RC 16
with 20knots till 9pm today. (Thursday Jan 31)


The RC 16 complies with the Formula 16 dimensions:

Lenght 5mts
Beam 2.40mts
Mast 7,60-8mts (recreational model with 7,60mts mast
Weight 140kg

Fixed feel.

The cat also has a revolutionary design especially
flat stern with concaves and channels.


The boats planes like a windsurf board, awesome speed.


We don´t have a dealer in USA yet.
The recreational platform here is sold for $5000usd
with monofilm main sail. 12m2 aprox.

Full racing rig is totally supported by the platform,
was design to race. But now we are focused on
developing the F18 class in South America




Some photos...


Regards,
Martin Vanzulli

F18 Argentina
Former Hobieclass member Hobiemex
Noriegas family disciple <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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Re: RaceCat RC-16 [Re: David Parker] #130214
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Can't be expensive to add a boom and spreaders really.


B.O.A.T = "Break Out Another Thousand"


Yes, thats the big problem about the F 16, everything you have to buy is is costing it's weight in GOLD.

Re: RaceCat RC-16 [Re: Gato] #130215
02/01/08 02:59 AM
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Gato,

is it your opinion that F-16 parts are more expensive than other beachcat parts, or are you comparing to something else like "big boat" parts?

Re: RaceCat RC-16 [Re: Rolf_Nilsen] #130216
02/01/08 03:17 AM
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Easy guys...


We've never promote the boat as F16 breed ...YET...
as our main focuse right now is promoting F18 in South America.

That´s why is called now "RC 16" and no RC F16 like our F18.


These photos are from our standard recreational cat. Delivered in Uruguay to our first client (60 years old milloinaire that I can assure you it doesn't give a damn that she has no boom!! jeje)

Right now the boat comes standard with "Nothing" for the recreational market.

That main sail is even the 1st prototype made with "window clloth" provided by error by DP.

Here you have a better look to the hulls.
I've design the boat with the F16 in mind, she is full capable of supporting an F16 full racing rig.

Wait till march-april, after supplying local overdemand for our F18 we'll POWER UP the baby.

Regarding prices:

We are selling our new version F18 for $10.600USD. With full Harken, Flex 4oz Main and Jib (no photos at the site yet as we are delivering 6 new F18 v2 right now)

So for I think for $7000-8000usd we can have a full F16 boat, could be less, I need to make some numbers.

Eeeassy, when we have it F16 ready , we'll contact the class and promote de boat.

Just take a look to THE hull... full planning machine.

http://www.catamaran.com.ar/images/rc16/index.html

Re: RaceCat RC-16 [Re: Rolf_Nilsen] #130217
02/01/08 03:22 AM
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The RC-16 looks like a neat little boat.
The person sailing the boat in the picture above sure looks like he is having a good time. Hope the F-18 project succeeds and catsailing see a boost in the area. Perhaps it is possible to buy parts like rudders etc. from RC as the exchange rate looks good.

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Re: RaceCat RC-16 [Re: Rolf_Nilsen] #130218
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ROLF
PLEASE READ MY POSTS ABOVE....

Re: RaceCat RC-16 [Re: F18arg] #130219
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Really sorry Martin, your latest post came while I was typing so I did not get to read it before I had posted. I'll modify it straight away!

Re: RaceCat RC-16 [Re: Rolf_Nilsen] #130220
02/01/08 03:50 AM
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Gato,

is it your opinion that F-16 parts are more expensive than other beachcat parts, or are you comparing to something else like "big boat" parts?


Comparing to what it costs to build them yourself. Normally when building you can save about 30% and here you can save about 70%.
Is it not the same reason why you are thinking of making the most your selfe?

Re: RaceCat RC-16 [Re: Rolf_Nilsen] #130221
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Ofcourse we also planned to suit up with daggerboards to race F16, but right now we are more than satisfied with the boat performance. So we'll leave it that way until we have some specfic demand, although we are going to power up rig soon as speed is too good, so we are wondering performance with a full racing rig.


Will keep you guys informed,
Cheers.

Re: RaceCat RC-16 [Re: F18arg] #130222
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If you can sell the complete cat for that price it's great!!! You don't even get the rig and sails for a Blade F16 for that, not to speak about the tramp, rudders and boards.

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