I've been a good boy for months. Time to stir up a little [censored]! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

How about a handicap number for 1-up, no spin. I use the old Taipan number at GYC occassionally and it's really sweet!

My excuse is the attraction for A class sailors who don't want to pony-up the bucks to play in that league.

My personal feeling is that each distinct class should have its own handicap, rather than multiple handicaps within the same class.

Solution, start a new class. Box rule, 1-up, no jib, no kite and it can have its own handicap.

You could call it F16 Uni-Topless and use the Taipan number. Works for me... <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

You're much too easy! Timbo is on the right track! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

How about F16 Full Monty!?

FM16?

I guess the Mosquito's have four "divisions" within the class. Uni, sloop, uni with kite and sloop with kite...

The only time Mozzy Uni and sloop are seperated is at National and State titles, the rest of the year the Uni's and sloops race each other, first across the line wins. VYC yardstick is the same for both.

Using a Taipan yardstick for a Blade without spinnaker isn't very fair on those your racing against <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />, you wont get away with that for long.

Darryn
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My bad re: mozzies...but there are kited and non-kited mozzies, certainly no "first past the post" racing between them.

Yeah but Pete, if you are going to sail it "Full Monty" then all you get to wear is your trap harness and gloves! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

That's illegal. . . even in Gulfport!

Great...now I have to gouge out my minds eye! How am I gonna get THAT image out of my head!

Me, Tim and Karl!? Are we the only ones with a sense of humor? Get to work you slackers! Surely there is at least one more smart butt out there!

Andi, is a naked fat man on skis funny in Switzerland? <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

It would be in Finland because cold does wonders for [censored] <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />.

I havn't raced against a F16 how close is a F16 to an A with similar sailing skills, also where do they rate against a Taipan 5.7. Only asking because I've sold the Stingray and looking for my next boat
regards

Wait a minute...that was a serious question. I didn't think we were done making fun of Pete yet!

Basically you can expect the F16, when singlehanded, to be about as fast around the course as an A-cat. In very light winds the A will be marginally faster, in medium to strong conditions the F16 will be slightly faster and in strong conditions it is the sailor who can survive best who wins. A doublehanded F16 will keep performance up well into strong wind conditions and also be slightly faster then the A's there. F16's and A's do require different skills I'm told, which is really not that amazing when recognizing the differences in concept. Spinnaker sailing is significantly different from sailing downwind under a mainsail alone.

Under Texel the boat you name are rated as :

A-cat = 101
F16 1-up = 101
F16 2-up = 102

Taipan 5.7 2-up (no spi) = about 99
Taipan 5.7 2-up (with spi) = about 95

For comparison :

F18 = 101


That Taipan 5.7 is a fast boat. Not too surprising either as it has more sailarea then a F18 and weights only 136 kg where the F18 weights 180 kg. Small wonder that it is rated a couple of points faster. As a 2-up boat the Taipan 5.7 is about as good as it gets, it will even give the M20 a good run for its money.

Still the 17.22 sq. mtr mainsail on the Taipan 5.7 is quite some sailarea to sheet while singlehanding.

Also are you sure that you want to know about the Taipan 5.7 and not the Taipan 4.9 ?

Wouter

You tell 'em Karl! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> What the hell is wrong with you guys!

". . . beware of the naked man." - R. Newman

How about we make the Tikipete rating! I would call it the f16SAF F16 Slow-az-fuk

See you at GYC ill be driving Tods Boat!

<img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> I may need crew for this. Anybody around?

I heard Stephan is looking to crew for someone...someone with a mast that will stay up! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

That's an idea, but my pitchpoles aren't radical enough for him! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />