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Need some help on post at SA #134084
02/29/08 08:29 PM
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A post over on Sailing Anarchy about the Lightspeed 32 had one fellow asking why at the dock it looked like the stern was trimmed down, bows up a bit.

Here is my reply and the strange response.

" QUOTE(Fasterdamnit @ Mar 1 2008, 02:30 AM) *
LOL!

It is a super light cat, that is what is going on. Move the sail bags and other gear forward and it will probably chnage a bit.

Besides, since it will try to lower the bows as it accelerates, a touch of bow-up at rest is not a bad idea. [endQUOTE]


blablabla
catamaran when they speed up just trim by the stern , as trimaran
Foils allow to control that by adding lift behind the LCB
So think again
PS: more over if that just happens with sails....i just wonder with 5 crews then...
To improve your knowledge look how a multihull trim at speed:"
(pic of 60ft Tri, close hauled in flat water cruising along with bows just out of the water.)

So I said-

"Hah!
Sail cats much?

Well,
I have raced Hobie 16's, G-Cat 5.7, Prindle 18's and Stiletto 27. Sailed on an F24 in SF bay. That was a blast- flying 2 hulls is a trip. On a screaming reach they all exhibit the same behavior due to the dramatic increase in forward lift on the rig vs. drag on the hulls and a high power to weight ratio. The Stiletto, much like the Lightspeed had lots of freeboard, tall bows and drew only a few inches depth because it was so bouyant. So while the bows would drop a little bit, there was never much worry about pitchpole unlike the smaller beachcats."

And the response-

"Man i really struggle with that: You don't get any lift from the bow cause it is out of the water !
That's physics...at high speed , the hull will NATURALY trim by the stern...
then trim tabs , crew ...can change that"



Guess I am just lost and speaking gibberish...

http://forums.sailinganarchy.com/index.php?showtopic=62221


Race cheap, race faster, Damnit!

E-Scow
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18HT hulls plus Gcat 5.7 rig = 18GT!
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Re: Need some help on post at SA [Re: FasterDamnit] #134085
03/01/08 08:41 PM
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save yourself the headaches and leave that forum.


Jake Kohl
Re: Need some help on post at SA [Re: Jake] #134086
03/01/08 08:57 PM
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I read that thread. Good luck.

Re: Need some help on post at SA [Re: Karl_Brogger] #134087
03/01/08 09:58 PM
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I second Jake. It's just about impossible to have any serious discussion there because of the constant adolescent venting.

Re: Need some help on post at SA [Re: papayamon2] #134088
03/01/08 10:31 PM
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Weelll-

I have been known to vent a bit myself...

Re: Need some help on post at SA [Re: FasterDamnit] #134089
03/02/08 10:16 AM
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Seems like you got plenty of "help" from other people.

You just got trolled by a snobbish, elitist naval architect student. Don't bite on it next time.

Also, while the crowd "over there" may be "juvenile" and "frat-astic" there are also a plethora of knowledge nuggets asking to be picked up over there.

Re: Need some help on post at SA [Re: ThunderMuffin] #134090
03/02/08 10:57 AM
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Nuggets of Knowledge over there? You would have better luck finding a gold coin in a pile of dog poo. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

Last edited by Timbo; 03/02/08 11:13 AM.

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Re: Need some help on post at SA [Re: Timbo] #134091
03/03/08 12:35 AM
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With regard to SA - there is nothing like watching some wanker cut down Trevor Baylis on the posting board (multiple world champion, Maxi cat sailor, Olympic medalist I think) like he is some kind of know nothing. Many times I have had posters ask about TP52 sails or technology (which I know first hand) and then had my reply cut down by individauls without a clue. It happens there.

There are nuggets - you just need to take the time to figure out who the real players are in their specific fleets.

Last edited by DHFiend; 03/03/08 12:38 AM.
Re: Need some help on post at SA [Re: USA1273] #134092
03/03/08 06:00 AM
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yup, there are a lot of dicks over there at SA

and it can be damn hard at times not to get sucked into their vortexes

what is it they say, "don't wrestle with a pig, you'll end up covered in filthy and the pig enjoys it"

oh and faster, i luv you 2 bra;o)


eric e
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Re: Need some help on post at SA [Re: erice] #134093
03/03/08 07:18 AM
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If you want to have a giggle, just search for Doug Lord's posts.

Guy is a total <expletive deleted> of the highest order.


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Re: Need some help on post at SA [Re: erice] #134094
03/03/08 10:08 AM
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Erice - good one!

I've always liked-

"Never argue with an idiot, they'll bring you down to their level, then beat you with experience."


Always borrow money from a pessimist. He won't expect it back.
Re: Need some help on post at SA [Re: zander] #134095
03/03/08 10:59 AM
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Lake Murray SC
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I hear you. Also seems to be some folks that appear to be in the top tax brackets that seem to have a bit of attitude. But I am enjoying catching up on the sportboat world after not sailing for quite a few years.

Hang Loose, Big E!


Race cheap, race faster, Damnit!

E-Scow
24' ULDB

18HT hulls plus Gcat 5.7 rig = 18GT!
Re: Need some help on post at SA [Re: FasterDamnit] #134096
03/03/08 02:20 PM
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"Hang loose, Big E!"

here have a star!


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