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#136217 03/13/08 04:50 PM 03/13/08 04:50 PM |
Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 5,558 Key Largo, FL & Put-in-Bay, OH... Mary
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Posts: 5,558 Key Largo, FL & Put-in-Bay, OH... | It isn't the appathy its the attitude. If you haven't noticed, apathy IS the attitude. And, hey, I am probably as guilty of it as anybody else. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> What I am saying is that there are lots of us who do things down at the grass roots level to get more people involved in sailing, to provide communication to sailors in various ways, to teach sailing and get kids into it, to provide clinics, etc. But there are only a few people who are doing the work up at the top of the ladder in the US Sailing network. And most catamaran sailors just don't give a darn about that top-level stuff, because we don't see how it affects us at the bottom of the ladder. Do you see what I mean? I hope? <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> | | | Re: US Multihull Council representation
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#136219 03/13/08 05:10 PM 03/13/08 05:10 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,293 Long Beach, California John Williams
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Posts: 3,293 Long Beach, California | Jeremy's right - let's take a breath. There's enough folks already throwing rocks at us without we start throwing at each other. This thread has been good in that I found out I missed two people I needed to have caught on the initial mailing. In addition, Tad has gently reminded me that we talked about using the Googlegroup to avoid just this sort of thing.
That said - it is literally impossible to get 100% participation. It was great that we had a good call - it will be good to get that level of participation again in the future, and it is very likely that the make-up of the participants will be different. Nature of the beast.
Now - who wants to be Chairman? <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
John Williams
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[Re: John Williams]
#136220 03/13/08 05:18 PM 03/13/08 05:18 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,116 Annapolis, MD Mark Schneider
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Posts: 3,116 Annapolis, MD | Hi John,
I just wanted to acknowledge your contributions to the formation of the International Mulithull Council and serving as a Vice President of the Organization.
As I reported to the Chesapeake Fleets,... we individually need to buy you a beer for personally stepping up and paying for the USA Dues this year as well.
You should DRINK FREE THIS YEAR!
My thanks for taking the lead on this issue.
Mark Schneider CRAC and Cheasapeake A Cats.
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[Re: SurfCityRacing]
#136221 03/13/08 05:27 PM 03/13/08 05:27 PM |
Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 5,558 Key Largo, FL & Put-in-Bay, OH... Mary
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Posts: 5,558 Key Largo, FL & Put-in-Bay, OH... | Now I'm starting to get upset. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> OK everybody---- breathe---- AAAHHHH... We're all on the same team here. There are a lot of people that work hard for our sport the last thing we need is infighting and the feeling of not being appreciated. So...let's use this thread as a learning tool. Maybe someone can post info for the google group?? Or other comm tool to keep people informed. Let's keep it positive and play nice...until we're on the race course <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> Okay, here's the problem. Lots of us work very hard for the sport at the local level -- dealers, class associations, sailing clubs, sailing centers which are the grass roots to get people into sailing in the first place, sailing schools, clinics, fleets, etc. Those are the people who keep sailing going. We are all involved in our own little sailing worlds, and we don't really see what the connection is to US Sailing and to the Multihull Council. So that is the major problem with getting volunteers for that upper echelon. It's like, what does that have to do with ME? And I think the same thing. Somebody has to figure out a way to make multihull sailors think there is a major reason to support the Multihull Council and join US Sailing. All the work that John Williams and others have been doing recently on behalf of getting the multihull back into the Olympics has given us a REALLY good reason to support our Multihull Council -- and the only way to do that is by joining US Sailing through the Multihull Council's Golden Anchor Program, so US Sailing will know you are a multihull sailor. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> I am so proud of John and the work he has done on behalf of multihulls. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> | | | Re: US Multihull Council representation
[Re: Mark Schneider]
#136222 03/13/08 05:35 PM 03/13/08 05:35 PM |
Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 5,558 Key Largo, FL & Put-in-Bay, OH... Mary
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Posts: 5,558 Key Largo, FL & Put-in-Bay, OH... | As I reported to the Chesapeake Fleets,... we individually need to buy you a beer for personally stepping up and paying for the USA Dues this year as well. He gets a BEER for paying the dues?? How many beers do you think he can drink? I guess you must be talking about the U.S. Multihull Council dues to the International Multihull Council? Why would John have to pay those dues himself? This is extremely embarrassing! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> Rick and I will certainly chip in money to help cover the dues to the IMC. I know the Multihull Council does not have a budget from US Sailing. | | | Re: US Multihull Council representation
[Re: Mary]
#136227 03/13/08 05:56 PM 03/13/08 05:56 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,116 Annapolis, MD Mark Schneider
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Posts: 3,116 Annapolis, MD | He gets a BEER for paying the dues?? How many beers do you think he can drink? Well... I thought about that... 96 boats at Spring Fever... if every body gets him one beer..... Should be enough! Do you think we should get him a second one???
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[Re: John Williams]
#136229 03/13/08 06:00 PM 03/13/08 06:00 PM |
Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 602 Wilmington,NC Dlennard
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Posts: 602 Wilmington,NC | I volunteer to get stoned. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> You look like you already are <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> | | | Re: US Multihull Council representation
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#136230 03/13/08 06:30 PM 03/13/08 06:30 PM |
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Posts: 291 | A few comments if I may. Please do not repremand people (paid or volunteer) in public. Please DO praise peoples efforts in public. We will get alot more people involved this way. Feel free to not volunteer if you are so inclined, but please do not complain about the state of our sport or Olympic status unless you are making an active effort to effect a change. People have asked what specifically they can do to help, it has been suggested that they write a letter to members of an Olympic council (sorry I am too tired to look it up). There was a large repsonse about the difficulty/cost to do so since email was not an option and they are overseas. So I will offer this. Write your letters and mail them to 1701 Mulberry Dr., Richmond, Texas, 77469, and will forward them overseas at my expense. John, I assume you can get me a name and address they need to go to? Lets all either be part of the solution, or refrain from commenting about the sorry shape we are in.
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[Re: Mary]
#136231 03/13/08 06:35 PM 03/13/08 06:35 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,293 Long Beach, California John Williams
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Posts: 3,293 Long Beach, California | I hope there is not a limit on holding that office. There absolutely ARE term limits. I was elected in November 2006. I will term-out in 2009. I am actively seeking a Vice-Chair.
John Williams
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[Re: John Williams]
#136232 03/13/08 06:44 PM 03/13/08 06:44 PM |
Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 5,558 Key Largo, FL & Put-in-Bay, OH... Mary
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Posts: 5,558 Key Largo, FL & Put-in-Bay, OH... | I hope there is not a limit on holding that office. There absolutely ARE term limits. I was elected in November 2006. I will term-out in 2009. I am actively seeking a Vice-Chair. Can't you change your name? Or maybe have your wife run for the office? <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> | | | Re: US Multihull Council representation
[Re: Mary]
#136233 03/13/08 06:49 PM 03/13/08 06:49 PM |
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. Timbo
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | I heard Ding wanted to do it... <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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#136234 03/13/08 06:57 PM 03/13/08 06:57 PM |
Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 5,558 Key Largo, FL & Put-in-Bay, OH... Mary
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Posts: 5,558 Key Largo, FL & Put-in-Bay, OH... | A few comments if I may. Please do not repremand people (paid or volunteer) in public. Please DO praise peoples efforts in public. We will get alot more people involved this way. Feel free to not volunteer if you are so inclined, but please do not complain about the state of our sport or Olympic status unless you are making an active effort to effect a change. People have asked what specifically they can do to help, it has been suggested that they write a letter to members of an Olympic council (sorry I am too tired to look it up). There was a large repsonse about the difficulty/cost to do so since email was not an option and they are overseas. So I will offer this. Write your letters and mail them to 1701 Mulberry Dr., Richmond, Texas, 77469, and will forward them overseas at my expense. John, I assume you can get me a name and address they need to go to? Lets all either be part of the solution, or refrain from commenting about the sorry shape we are in. Sorry, Collin, but you are wrong, at least in terms of the Multihull Council and US Sailing. Somebody NEEDS to comment on it, and I'm glad that Barb Short started this. The Multihull Council was formed in, I think, 1985. We STILL have some of the same basic people involved that were running it back then. It was so nice to hear their voices on the teleconference. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> And, of course, my voice is old, and Rick's voice is old. So where were all the new, and younger, voices? | | | Re: US Multihull Council representation
[Re: Mary]
#136235 03/13/08 07:04 PM 03/13/08 07:04 PM |
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 749 Santa Cruz, CA SurfCityRacing
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Posts: 749 Santa Cruz, CA | So where were all the new, and younger, voices? Now that's an interesting point to ponder, Mary. Our area G rep is 35. That's pretty young for cat sailors <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" /> Where ARE all the young guys anyway? | | | Re: US Multihull Council representation
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#136236 03/13/08 07:11 PM 03/13/08 07:11 PM |
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | My guess is they are busy with raising young children and trying to buy a house... <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />
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