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[Re: John Williams]
#136891 03/31/08 11:22 AM 03/31/08 11:22 AM |
Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,584 +31NL Tony_F18
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Posts: 2,584 +31NL | It says in the article that the front beam snapped, but in the pictures it clearly shows its still there (Can you tow a cat in 40kt winds without a front beam anyway?). <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> And in this picture the mastbase seems to be pointing out of the water and being towed upwind (to shore), looks like it is mounted on something (top of a RIB maybe?). They may have deep pockets but they're not idiots. | | | Re: Alinghi must face BMW in October 2008?
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#136892 03/31/08 11:37 AM 03/31/08 11:37 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,293 Long Beach, California John Williams
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Posts: 3,293 Long Beach, California | Agree, Tony - the early reports just don't square with the pics. I guess we'll have to wait for a press release or a blog like we did with Foncia.
Wonder how long it took them to figure out that towing a cat with the rudders up is a PITA? <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
John Williams
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[Re: Tony_F18]
#136893 03/31/08 12:08 PM 03/31/08 12:08 PM |
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Posts: 3,528 Looking for a Job, I got credi... | It says in the article that the front beam snapped, but in the pictures it clearly shows its still there (Can you tow a cat in 40kt winds without a front beam anyway?). <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> And in this picture the mastbase seems to be pointing out of the water and being towed upwind (to shore), looks like it is mounted on something (top of a RIB maybe?). They may have deep pockets but they're not idiots. That pic looks like it is showing the rear beam with the rudders up. You can see the hulls twisting too. IIRC their 40 has black rudder blades.
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#136896 03/31/08 01:19 PM 03/31/08 01:19 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 12,310 South Carolina Jake
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | It says in the article that the front beam snapped, but in the pictures it clearly shows its still there (Can you tow a cat in 40kt winds without a front beam anyway?). <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> And in this picture the mastbase seems to be pointing out of the water and being towed upwind (to shore), looks like it is mounted on something (top of a RIB maybe?). They may have deep pockets but they're not idiots. That pic looks like it is showing the rear beam with the rudders up. You can see the hulls twisting too. IIRC their 40 has black rudder blades. This picture also shows the mast on what appears to be the tow boat? What gives? That's a moderately angry looking seaway.
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#136897 03/31/08 01:35 PM 03/31/08 01:35 PM |
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Posts: 1,187 38.912, -95.37 | Hmmmph! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> multihulls...if you can't beat 'em...destroy 'em
John H16, H14
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#136898 03/31/08 01:43 PM 03/31/08 01:43 PM |
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Posts: 1,147 Bay of Islands, NZ | C;mon guys! Check that last photo! You would have to get the sail down to save the rig. Which one of you thinks you could do that in that sea?! After the rig had that kind of impact would you then put it back together and risk the AC on it? Surely the stupid choice these photos speak to is that they were sailing in 40 knots. It is not like the cup will be raced in anything like that.
And in the end.
50K.......they blow a couple of spinnies and that is gone in the monos. These boats cost nothing compared with the budgets they have had.
BTW anyone notice the second cat flipped out in the first photo?
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#136902 03/31/08 05:48 PM 03/31/08 05:48 PM | Anonymous
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Its not BWMO and the mast was saved. | | | Re: Alinghi must face BMW in October 2008?
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#136903 03/31/08 07:51 PM 03/31/08 07:51 PM |
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Posts: 473 Panama City, Florida | Does anyone have the story here so I don't have to go "there"? Rob V.
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[Re: Redtwin]
#136904 03/31/08 07:55 PM 03/31/08 07:55 PM | Anonymous
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"We thought this was BMW/Oracle, but it looks like our source was a little confused about the ownership of the Extreme 40 that we reported on this morning. An X-40 did break its rig and forward crossbeam more than a week ago, but it wasn't BMW/Oracle. The brand new boat is owned by +1 Racing/Team Draper - a British iShares team. That is indeed a BMW tender helping out, but not their cat. The beam broke during a training session against the U.S. team, and was towed to shore along with their rig. No one was injured. Apparently this is the second crossbeam broken on the new boat in just a few weeks. Our bad." | | | Re: Alinghi must face BMW in October 2008?
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#136906 04/01/08 12:52 PM 04/01/08 12:52 PM |
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 110 Northern California, USA RyanMcHale
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Posts: 110 Northern California, USA | The price for an vx-40 •Boat price € 359.500,- price is ex vat. Just incase you were wondering Hey Rich, If you're going to buy one You'll need crew, I'm just over the hills in Redding!! Hope you plan on attending the Whiskeytown Sailing Clubs "2008 Whiskeytown Regatta" Memorial day weekend.
Ryan McHale Hobie 14 (battened jib)
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#136910 04/01/08 04:57 PM 04/01/08 04:57 PM |
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Posts: 291 | Thats a hell of a glitch seeing as someone could have been killed. Not to mention the cost factors involved.
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