| Congrats to Rick and Mary #140435 04/19/08 05:26 AM 04/19/08 05:26 AM |
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Posts: 127 Florida | We all owe a debt of Gratitude to Rick and Mary for the opportunity to read and distribute information in Catamaran Sailor Mag and website. Their recent treatment of the mandatory US Sailing membership is truly a work of art, in the printed magazine. Everyone had the oportunity to express views, and the magazine did it without bias. Something a lot of news mags could learn from. Yes, Mary gave her points in an editorial view, but everyone had their say. I am currently in that state of having received the training from US Sailing, but unable to certify. I have taken both the basic and advanced race management courses. The latter was taught by Tom Farquhar, a current principal in the RRS rewrite for 2009. I passed the basic (For club level) with flying colors, but I barely squeeked by the advanced course. It is a tough course, with national level candidates sqirming in their seats. These are quality classes, with quality leaders. But..., I still face the issue of certification. Since I do not belong to a Yacht Club, I cannot get a flag officer recomendation from a club, my only lacking credential. I have joined the scuttlebutt club,(by the way suggested by Tom Farquhar at the class), but it has no flag officer, I am also a member of the Space Coast Catamaran Association, but they are not a member of US Sailing. US Sailing offers great training, and I believe a national level association is really necessary, but my view is the same as that of the US Government: A bureaucracy simply grows on itself, feeling its own importantcy above those which it intends to serve. I spent 26 years in government and 18 years in industry, at one time, serving as the senior USAF launch director for space vehicles. I have learned that a bureaucracy can manage almost nothing, (But to a last soul will swear it does), and will grow as stated in the Peter Principal. I also have learned that large companies also fit into that category. With all that said, I say to US Sailing, please state clearly, and not in beauracratic (We will represent you) terms, what will you do with the funds developed by mandatory memberships. Or in other terms, what have you done for us lately, except great training programs? The little guy who just wants to sail and race when time and dollars permit, demands those answers. I can be reached at wgreen3262@bellsouth.net <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> | | | Re: Congrats to Rick and Mary
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Posts: 5,558 Key Largo, FL & Put-in-Bay, OH... | Well, NAMSA is a paid member of US Sailing, and it is an incorporated sailing association, and it has officers, so I wonder whether US Sailing would accept a recommendation from Rick, who is currently the president. NAMSA pays the same dues to US Sailing as the yacht clubs do. | | | Re: Congrats to Rick and Mary
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#140439 04/19/08 09:41 PM 04/19/08 09:41 PM |
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Posts: 805 Gainesville, FL 32607 USA | Just follow Rick til he hangs a rudder on the A-mark's anchor line. No problem....I've done it a couple of times.
Dacarls: A-class USA 196, USA 21, H18, H16 "Nothing that's any good works by itself. You got to make the damn thing work"- Thomas Edison
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#140440 04/20/08 07:45 AM 04/20/08 07:45 AM |
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Posts: 5,558 Key Largo, FL & Put-in-Bay, OH... | Let's get back to the object of this thread, which (I think) is the capability of catamaran sailors to get race officer certification through US Sailing, when said sailors do not belong to a yacht club.
Do you have to spend hundreds of dollars to join a yacht club in order to get somebody to recommend you for a certification? Will NAMSA work? Will belonging to the Hobie Class Association work?
And why do you have to belong to ANYTHING (other than US Sailing) to get certified as a Race Officer if you take the courses and pass the tests?
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#140441 04/20/08 11:52 AM 04/20/08 11:52 AM |
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Posts: 127 Florida | Reply to Mary: I do not see any reason why NAMSA will not work. I must have a membership # for NAMSA's membership in US Sailing. I will be down on Thursday preparing for the Hogs Breath and will bring a letter for Rick to sign and, an application for membership. I already have a subscription to Catamaran Sailor Mag, but will provide full membership fee. Then I will submit to find out what other requirements will pop up. I have the list qualification requirements and have met all, so we will see. wgreen3262@bellsouth.netI really do thank you and Rick for the opportunhity to publish NOR's and other important info concerning upcoming races. It is a blessing to all competitors and race managers. | | | Re: Congrats to Rick and Mary
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Posts: 1,884 Detroit, MI | Do you have to spend hundreds of dollars to join a yacht club in order to get somebody to recommend you for a certification? Will NAMSA work? Will belonging to the Hobie Class Association work? No. I have my Race Officer Certification through CRAM. Any organization that is a member of US SAILING will qualify. | | |
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