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"titles" question #14105
12/13/02 12:27 PM
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HoldenBeachin Offline OP
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I apologize if this has been addressed before, but can anyone update me on the titles (under a poster's name) being used by this forum? Under the FAQ section, the following titles are listed along with the required number of posts to get them:

0 stranger
25 newbie
50 journeyman
100 member
200 enthusiast
400 addict
700 old hand
1200 veteran
1600 Pooh-Bah
2500 Carpal Tunnel

Besides "stranger", I have seen none of the above titles. I have seen: Novice Poster, Found the: Starting Line / Course / Wind, and Decent or Great Sailor.

Are there numerical values attached to these titles? Are the titles manually assigned or automatic?

On this forum, I have found a person with 8 posts classified as a "stranger", while another person with 1 post is a "Novice Poster". There is also a "Novice Poster" with 53 posts, while another person with 39 post has "Found the Wind".

Just curious...

Mark Owens
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Re: "titles" question [Re: HoldenBeachin] #14106
12/13/02 06:35 PM
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uuhh.... yea thats right!


Re: "titles" question [Re: HoldenBeachin] #14107
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The "titles" you listed are the default titles in the FAQ's that come with the forum. The forum administrator changed those titles to ones that are more based on sailing. So ignore that list of default titles.


Mary A. Wells
Re: "titles" question [Re: MaryAWells] #14108
12/13/02 08:54 PM
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Mary,

For what it's worth, I've found the user labeling features of the forum offensive. Whether it be "Can't find the wind," or a string of stars ("rate this user"), the use of a label has no relavance to what is being discussed. Everyone's input should be valued for the words that are written, whether they've posted once or a thousand times, or have been "rated" as a five star participant or a one star.


Kevin Rose N6.0na #215 Lake Champlain (New England's "west coast") Burlington, Vermont
Re: "titles" question [Re: Kevin Rose] #14109
12/13/02 10:39 PM
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I agree. A new version of the software for this forum is supposed to be coming out soon, and I hope it will eliminate a lot of that stuff or make it onable/offable. It was the last new version that added those ratings things, and I hate them. As far as the titles, I don't know whether they have plans to change or eliminate that feature, but I will pass your suggestion on to the software people.


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Re: "titles" question [Re: Kevin Rose] #14110
12/15/02 09:11 PM
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Offended??? Is this going just a little too far. Lighten up.
Mike


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Re: "titles" question [Re: catman] #14111
12/16/02 09:48 AM
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Mike,

Just exactly what are you suggesting is "going too far"? Offering an opinion, or feedback?

Let me ask you a question. How do you think you would feel if every time someone made reference to your comments they used the phrase "novice sailor Mike Catley . . ."? (And, let’s say that the label came without any knowledge of your sailing skills, but rather from the fact that you’d only written one letter to the editor of your local newspaper.) Or, how would you feel if a single person didn't care for your remarks and decided to rate you as a “one star” contributor? (And that star carries on next to your name long after the comment has been forgotten.)

I was suggesting was that the titles assigned by the forum software have no relevance to a contributor’s integrity as a person, or their sailing ability. I also disliked the feature that allows a single user (like yourself) to label another contributor with "one star" simply because a comment rubs them the wrong way. Yes, I do find that offensive, and I was simply stating my opinion as a suggestion for improving the forum (which BTW, I’ve found to be really terrific otherwise).

Cheers,


Kevin Rose N6.0na #215 Lake Champlain (New England's "west coast") Burlington, Vermont
Re: "titles" question [Re: Kevin Rose] #14112
12/16/02 02:03 PM
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Kevin,

I tried to bump your star level up a bit!

Seriously though, I'm sure the titles in question are undoubtedly just for fun and aren't meant to label posters. It's more or less a fun way to say "this guy (me) spends WAY to much time on his computer". Everybody goes through the same set of 'titles' so it's even and fair. The only reason someone has a lesser title is because they spend more time outside and less on the computer.

I don't care for the stars though. That IS a label and could run people off if they feel they've been stamped as negative or lesser - that star thing is completely political.


Jake Kohl
Re: "titles" question [Re: Jake] #14113
12/16/02 03:24 PM
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Jake,

Thanks for your input. While it was never my intention to make a big deal about this topic (I realize that the intention is purely fun), I know that there have been several posters on this forum who have asked about the logic behind the titles. Folks do take notice of them, but are not always clear about how they are derived. Perhaps a better implementation would have titles that are more in line with how they are derived (number of posts in a particular time period).

Thanks again. I've always enjoyed your input on this forum. (Has nothing to do with the fact that you've recently joined the ranks of N6.0 owners )


Kevin Rose N6.0na #215 Lake Champlain (New England's "west coast") Burlington, Vermont
Re: "titles" question [Re: Kevin Rose] #14114
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I thought I was clear. I suggested you lighten up. I questioned the fact that your offended by titles and stars.

As to how I FEEL about what other people think that don't really know me, I could care less. I know who I am.

Have fun!
Mike

By the way, If you need to be offended look at your post totals in this thread. Your stuck at 147


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Re: "stuck" at 147 [Re: catman] #14115
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Um, every appearance of a poster's name and info updates with each new post..thus, his next post will make him appear "stuck" at 148, as your next will "stick" you at 131.

sail fast


Andrew Tatton Nacra 20 "Wiggle Stick" #266 Nacra 18 Square #12
Re: "stuck" at 147 [Re: Andrew] #14116
12/18/02 09:10 AM
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Ummm, I know...But I am offended that I don't get instant credit for all the time I spend typing. After all I'm handicaped because I peck at the keyboard with one finger. I want to FEEL good about myself, GIVE ME INSTANT CREDIT.


ROTFLMAO!!!

Mike


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Re: "titles" question [Re: Kevin Rose] #14117
12/18/02 01:11 PM
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Kevin...

I too voiced my opposition to a rating system generated by users when it was introduced in October (use link below to get to page, my post is the 4th one down).

http://www.catsailor.com/forums/sho...ew=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1

I am pleased to hear that new software without this feature may be forthcoming. I suppose I wouldn't mind being rated by the moderator(s) of the forum (or posters who are "Old Salts", but this would be difficult to verify). I have sailed (recreationally) for over 30 years. While I respect everyone's opinion, given a choice of two opposing opinions, I probably would pay more heed to the advice of a "Novice Poster" who has extensive sailing experience, over that of a "Decent Sailor" who has only just recently started sailing.

Mark Owens
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Re: "titles" question [Re: HoldenBeachin] #14118
12/18/02 02:20 PM
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Mark,

Sounds like you articulated it pretty well in that post.

Having recently aquired the title of "grandpa", I've got a bit of water under the keel as well, although I didn't start sailing beach cats until five years ago. (I'm gravitating toward the extreme sports as I age. ) It's always been good to know that sailing has a place for all ages and abilities.


Kevin Rose N6.0na #215 Lake Champlain (New England's "west coast") Burlington, Vermont
Re: "titles" question [Re: HoldenBeachin] #14119
12/18/02 03:16 PM
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OK, now who went and gave me 5 stars? How can I look sincere as a "rebel against the system" with a 5 star rating?

Well, come to think of it, they do look pretty impressive there, eh?

Maybe I was just a little too hasty with my prior post. Yeah, that's the ticket!! Oh, what a WONDERFUL idea a rating system is! Can we keep it, huh, huh? Now class, only pay attention to those forum posters who have earned the most stars!!

Mark Owens
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Re: "titles" question [Re: HoldenBeachin] #14120
12/18/02 04:40 PM
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stars seem a bit off subject. now, if we could only get boats instead of stars. i'm sure there isn't anybody on this forum that wouldn't mind getting a boat (or five).

Re: "titles" question [Re: dave taylor] #14121
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The boat idea is good. Perhaps just a boat first.Then you would move up to a boat with a main sail, Then a jib, Then a chute. Of course the uni sailors might be offended by the addition of two more sails.....or even worse, OUTRAGED.

OK, OK I'm done.......Peace Kev.

Merry Christmas all
Mike Catley


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Re: "titles" question [Re: catman] #14122
12/18/02 11:02 PM
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OK, I just can't resist---- What kind of boat is best suited to replace the stars? Should it be the Javelin or maybe the Nacra 6.0 or maybe a Hobie FX or maybe..... My vote is the Supercat-20. Sorry, but I couldn't just sit back on this one.
Don Caldwell
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Re: "titles" question [Re: catman] #14123
12/19/02 09:30 AM
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i was thinking of real boats. maybe the kind people who run this site (thanks mary, you're the best) could make sure there are enough sponsors for all of the people that post messages here. you know, maybe start with a pram, move up to a laser, and eventually, if you post enough, you end up with a new prindle 16 (i am a bit biased here).

Re: "titles" question [Re: dave taylor] #14124
12/19/02 12:04 PM
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Dave,
Thanks for the thanks, but I don't have anything to do with the site -- it's all Rick's. I'm just a poster like everybody else. Except, being a woman, I tend to keep trying to change the subject when you guys get all bogged down in threads about epoxy and ratings. It's a man's world -- both on the forums and in my house, where football rules this time of the year.


Mary A. Wells
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