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Re: Winter Racing Adelaide [Re: JeffS] #144598
07/17/08 11:02 PM
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Darryn/Jeff

I you kinow of any brave souls looking for more winter sailing , Lake Bonney is having winter series

*Sunday July 27th
**Sunday August 17th
***Sunday September 7th
All racing to start at 1pm.

Might be long day from Adelaide but we will be doing it ( round trip from Adelaide too)

might be worth giving one of the locals there a call before to see numbers but hey, a day on the water is better than one spent mowing or gardening or anything else

David

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Re: Winter Racing Adelaide [Re: dkd] #144599
07/18/08 07:24 PM
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Hi David,
I wont be making the drive for your winter series.

Christies is on tomorrow, 20th July, 12 noon start. Tides are good with 1130 being low. Seabreeze shows the wind allover the place with 3.5 metre swell which fits in with what I have been seeing all week, could be fun. I will post the bom forecast when it arrives.

Darryn

Re: Winter Racing Adelaide [Re: Darryn] #144600
07/19/08 12:45 AM
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Sunday
Wind: N/NW 15/20 knots, easing to 10/15 knots during the afternoon ahead of a S/SW change 10/15 knots late afternoon, increasing to 18/23 knots in the evening.
Sea: 1 to 1.5 m, rising to 2 m in the evening.
Swell south of Marino Rocks: W around 1 m.

Ramp looks good.

Darryn

Re: Winter Racing Adelaide [Re: Darryn] #144601
07/21/08 04:07 AM
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OK Darryn,

How was the racing ? What were the results ? Christies don't appear to list any results in the "off season" <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />

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Peter


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Re: Winter Racing Adelaide [Re: Peter_Foulsum] #144602
07/21/08 05:39 AM
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Hi Peter,
raced was cancelled, conditions were a bit to much of everything.

Darryn

Re: Winter Racing Adelaide [Re: Peter_Foulsum] #144603
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No winter race results on the website, they will appear soon.

Attached is another of Petes pics from the Adelaide winter race two weeks ago, I purchased this one so it has lots of detail.

One of my favourites from Petes website http://www.petermuirhead.com/galleries/10/photos/10-003.htm

Darryn

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Re: Winter Racing Adelaide [Re: Darryn] #144604
07/31/08 05:40 AM
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Looks like we've got wind again this Sunday hopefully I'll stay upright a bit longer. Who's sailing?
regards


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Re: Winter Racing Adelaide [Re: JeffS] #144605
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Me, weather looks good, should be a fast sail <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Adelaide SC, Sunday, 1 pm start, multiple races. All welcome.

Darryn
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Re: Winter Racing Adelaide [Re: Darryn] #144606
07/31/08 06:57 AM
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Yeah any more wind and I might drag the mozzie down there for us old whackers to play on. I've got to stay upright this time because I've got a little video cam out front.


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Re: Winter Racing Adelaide [Re: dkd] #144607
08/03/08 07:43 PM
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David did you get my pm replies regarding your pm and Lake Bonney
regards Jeff


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Re: Winter Racing Adelaide [Re: JeffS] #144608
08/03/08 10:17 PM
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How did it go yesterday Jeff?

We raced at Adelaide, 3 cats, Mozzie, Arrow and Nacra5.8, lots of dinghys, counted 20 between races and there was some casulties early on. Two races, 15 to 20knots Northerly, tide opposing the wind.

I think Jeff had a problem before the race and returned to the beach on the 5.8. Paul on the Arrow and myself started with the Sharpies, 470, Fireballs etc. I hung back at the start, avoiding the scrum, tacked onto port hit the layline plus a bit because it is more fun footing and rounded 150metres in front of the first dinghy. Surfed downwind, still drawing away from the dinghys with their spinnakers up and continued doing laps. Sailed two quick races. Highlights where racing aginst high quality dinghy sailors and of course the high sustained speeds that you get on day like that <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />.

I sailed the same 3 lap windward return course as the Div 2 dinghys. The results are very close, I think our handicap of 84 works well.

Results
http://www.yachting.org.au/site/yachting/results/adelaidesc/2008/club/winter/series.htm


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Re: Winter Racing Adelaide [Re: Darryn] #144609
08/04/08 12:54 AM
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No real problem with the boat, this time we hooked on and took off straight out to sea but took a while to get organised, once organised we really took off jumping waves that just kept getting bigger, we pulled one of the downhaul pulleys of the mast but were still able to pull it on once we took up the slack. We pulled out because I couldn't figure out how to power it down enough to not jump of one wave into the middle of the next wave and get half washed off. We should have gone in the race but didnt realise the course was more sheltered in shore and the waves that really hit us were further out than the course. Once packed up and in the bar it struck us as we watched you just how far out we had gone, I remember looking way in shore at the start boat on our way in and we wouldn't have had to race in the bigger waves. I'm learning more each time and this time I was in control and didn't come close to tipping, the video I took of us was pretty dramatic to look at and shows me how I can improve alot. See you next month.
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Re: Winter Racing Adelaide [Re: JeffS] #144610
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I would be curious to see that video. Could you burn me a copy? Waves can get very big off ASC and the tide made them steeper and more confused.

If I had damaged my downhaul system it would have made my Mozzie very difficult to sail. It would be even more critical on the 5.8 with a dacron sail so maybe you couldn't apply the exteme amount of downhaul needed on a day like that to depower?

Racing again on 17th at Christies and next month the hot up series starts, sailing on every Saturday <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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Re: Winter Racing Adelaide [Re: Darryn] #144611
08/04/08 09:11 PM
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No worries burning a disc for you, pm me your address, I'd welcome any tips. I'm going to post in open forum a question about what program to download to edit the video so I can cut it. I've got to learn how to handle those waves as I can see the fun to be had. I think I have to pull the main on more to lift the hull more so that the next wave doesnt crash into us.
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Re: Winter Racing Adelaide [Re: JeffS] #144612
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Jeff
I think your boat is sold as a 5.8NA in US. Might be good to ask a question in the open forum about setting the boat up and depowering the rig. Good idea to sheet in and ride a bit higher and maybe take a step back when you see a big wave upwind saves the sudden deceleration as the bows dig into the next on landing. Of course better to avoid those waves if possible <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I cant recommend any video editing software, we use a couple of different types but there all crap, I think an apple is required to do it properly.

I have attached one of Peters pics from Sunday, me again <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />
http://www.petermuirhead.com/

Darryn

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Re: Winter Racing Adelaide [Re: Darryn] #144613
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See how agreeably flat the camera makes the water. I agree it is funny talking about the 5.8 in a mozzie forum but its become the winter racing thread. When you see the video you will see I couldnt get any further back, I had my feet in the foot holders so I wouldnt leave the boat as the boat dropped over the waves, its really funny to see my crews feet both leave the deck and then when he touches again we crash through the next wave. It was over one wave through the next, I didnt notice any deceleration on landing the girl just kept ploughing through.
regards

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Re: Winter Racing Adelaide [Re: JeffS] #144614
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I am bearing away down a wave and the camera boat was on the crest, doesn't look like that at all.
I doubt anyone minds talking about tuning a 5.8 here, but there are guides online and they make a good starting point
http://goosemarine.com.au/Articles%20%7C%20Photos has some interesting stuff.

Darryn

Re: Winter Racing Adelaide [Re: Darryn] #144615
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Hey Jeff hows the video?
Were all one big fanily <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
You can show us all <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Winter Racing Adelaide [Re: becjm] #144616
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I'm going to post it when I work out how, it doesn't show me in a particulary good light but I reckon the helpfull hints will outweigh the embarassment. So far I've cut of the bits like leaving the beach and where the camera was on the wrong side etc so from 45mins its now 14 and shrinking.
I tuned it as per the Goose marine tips. I even have Scott Andersons "Advanced Catamaran Racing" and Rick Whites books that go into detail about this exact boat.
regards


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Re: Winter Racing Adelaide [Re: becjm] #144617
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Okay I posted the video on Youtube and started a thread in open
you'll see my efforts <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> don't be too hard on me
regards

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