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Re: great 2nd amendment video [Re: Karl_Brogger] #162484
12/11/08 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Karl_Brogger


The M1 is one of the best rifles ever made in my opinion.


Tried reloading under fire? That dang stripper clip will get you in trouble vs. the "new" bottom mag developed for the M/AR platforms.

There are many features on the M1 Garande that set the bar for all to follow. The top feeding magazine is not one of them. At that time in history, I would agree with your statement (or Gen. Patton). Not so sure compared to some of today's offerings.

And wait until you see the composite-cased and caseless ammo variants. All the bang and 20% less weight.


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Re: great 2nd amendment video [Re: waterbug_wpb] #162485
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I thought the M1 had a removable box clip. Wasn't it the old M1 Garand that was the top feed? I've had quite a few different military type riffles. Since most of my shooting is hunting, my favorite is the SKS. It's more accurate than the AK47 with the same ammo. Also, it's never jammed on me. The stripper clips work pretty well but I also have a removable box clip for it. Great pig/coyote/mt lion shooter.

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Re: great 2nd amendment video [Re: TeamChums] #162487
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I meant the Garand, I've got a Korean War vintage one made by International Harvest, and a new Springfield when they did a run of them a few years ago.

I've managed to get my thumb caught in the action a couple of times over the years. The trick is to hold the action partially open with the side of your hand when pushing in the clip. Then the action doesn't close fully and you have to give it a bump to close it all the way. When I was in my early teens I was pretty good with one, now probably not so much. I don't think I've even shot mine in almost a year.

I like it a heck of alot more than my AR. I wouldn't mind one of the newer variations of the M14.

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Re: great 2nd amendment video [Re: TeamChums] #162489
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you are correct with regard to M1 Garande.

It's hard for me to pick a favorite. I am most attached to my first "bargain basement" savage 110FP, but probably only because it was my first reasonably accurate long rifle, and by far the cheapest. I may eventually try that new F class Savage. Definitely the best overall value for the intermediate enthusiast.

Robar SR90 is nice, but a bit much to drag around all day. I like bolt action... but I just put together an RRA 6.8mm SPC on an AR platform. Nice and easy...


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Re: great 2nd amendment video [Re: TeamChums] #162506
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cool Checked out a M-1 Carbine at Joe's today. Regular $1,200 on sale for $800. Tempting, but I do not need one now. Had, M-2 Carbine, semi auto/full auto version in the Army. Was my favorite side arm.
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Re: great 2nd amendment video [Re: waterbug_wpb] #162527
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I agree with you on the accuracy of the bolt actions. I have a Ruger M77 Mark II in a 300 Winchester. I bedded the action and free floated the barrel and the accuracy is awesome with good handloads. I have taken 2 Antelope in Wyoming at just over 1000 yards. I normaly wouldn't have tried a shot that far but I was trying to impress some buddies (plus a little lazy to try to get closer). I have a few friends who have the Savage 110s and can't believe the accuracy! Their on par with the Weatherby's as far as I'm concerned.
I've grown fond of the SKS due mostly to versatility and cheap ammo. I have a synthetic sporter stock on it allong with a lazer/hollogram sight. It does get a little underpowered for big hogs but a few extra shots evens things out in the end.


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Re: great 2nd amendment video [Re: TeamChums] #162600
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On the other end of the spectrum, a Marlin 30/30 lever action with wide angle scope is great for deer in Florida scrub. Ranges are rarely over 100 yards.

Re: great 2nd amendment video [Re: fin.] #162680
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You're right Pete. Although those deer are so stinkin' small down south, it's easier to just throw a golf club at them.


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Redneck thread? [Re: fin.] #162810
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Originally Posted by Tikipete
On the other end of the spectrum, a Marlin 30/30 lever action with wide angle scope is great for deer in Florida scrub. Ranges are rarely over 100 yards.


This must be the redneck thread... wink My mother has a 357 (no foolin). eek


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The citizens of England have something to say about loosing their rights to own firearms...watch this Video...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTq2NEUlhDE

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Originally Posted by Seeker
The citizens of England have something to say about loosing their rights to own firearms...watch this Video...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTq2NEUlhDE

Regards,
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Wow. That's terrific Bob. I haven't heard one word about any of this on OUR news. Wonder why?


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Re: Redneck thread? [Re: bullswan] #165139
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Why don't you call and find out? Add my name to the list of inquiring minds.

Re: Redneck thread? [Re: bullswan] #165141
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I haven't heard one word about any of this on OUR news. Wonder why?

Especially since it is a reporter from the U.S.

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Re: Redneck thread? [Re: Seeker] #165147
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Originally Posted by Seeker
The citizens of England have something to say about loosing their rights to own firearms...watch this Video...

The background music should have been the Beatles singing Happiness Is A Warm Gun.


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Re: Right to Carry, 2nd Amendment [Re: hobie1616] #165246
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Personally, I wish everyone who was legally entitled to carry a weapon (firearm if you wish) could do so anywhere in the country, including the airlines. Those of us who don't present a danger to other law-abiding individuals outnumber those who do. As a commercial pilot, I often am armed in my plane.

The World Trade Center Buildings would still be standing if that were the case. Likely, no shot would have been fired, even more likely, the vermin would have not have chosen to attempt the hi-jack knowing that. And before you do the knee jerk response, a bullet through the fuselage doesn't cause depressurization of a pressurized airplane even with a missed shot. There is an over-abundance of bleed air.

By legally entitled, that means sober and mentally competent, and not a criminal, having passed a background check.

I certainly don't agree that only law enforcement should have weapons, as we have had plenty of criminals or domestically violent LEOs caught and convicted for various felonies. A not insignificant number of LEOs go into that career because they like the power of the uniform.

I don't hunt game, I respect those who do, but I enjoy shooting competitively for accuracy with rifles, speed and accuracy with pistols, as well as Trap, Sporting Clays, and Skeet with my shotgun. Those are freedoms I won't give up without a fight.

I have been on the wrong side of a gun in a robbery and have been armed ever since. I have had break-ins at my house twice, and have exercised restraint when chasing the thug to not shoot him. I have been chased down by someone just for passing through his neighborhood bearing a tag from another county, with him jumping out and beating on my car window at the first light I stopped at and screaming at me to stay out of his neighborhood. I didn't shoot him either, although I was prepared to do so if the window had broken and I felt my life was in immediate danger. I do insist on having the option. Each time gun control was in play and everyone lived. It is not a guaranteed outcome, but each instance of a threat must be taken seriously and with as much thought as the time allows.

Gun shows here require everyone, including the exhibitors, to check their firearms and have the action locked to prevent a cartridge from being loaded. The eight year old would never have been able to fire a shot in my state. His irresponsible father would have had to do that at another time away from the show. Stupid has no limitations.

Re: Right to Carry, 2nd Amendment [Re: AlecThigpen] #165284
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Well put!!!


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Re: Right to Carry, 2nd Amendment [Re: Team_Cat_Fever] #165344
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Last I checked, bad guys don't need licenses or permits to obtain or use firearms.

Is the permit/license process going to keep bad guys from getting or using firearms? Are we wasting tax dollars by making people get permits/licenses?

If they're going to jail for robbing a bank anyway, does it bother a bad guy if they get another couple of years in jail for robbing the bank with a firearm?

If firearms are banned in the UK, why are there firearm crimes committed there? Are you saying that the bad guys aren't complying with the ban?



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Re: Right to Carry, 2nd Amendment [Re: waterbug_wpb] #165399
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Since people with criminal intent will find firearms or other weapons, it becomes imperative that the law abiding citizen be prepared to defend ourselves and family with any weapon we find effective and manageable.

I agree with Ted Nugent. The US Constitution and Bill of Rights should be my concealed carry permit, except that the right to defend one's self and family in any way necessary at any appropriate level, predates that document by a few million years.

All animals have the right to protect themselves, most carrying concealed or open weapons genetically engineered into them. The diversity of weapons in the animal kingdom is mind boggling, even at the human level of innovation.

The jail time for use of a gun in committing a felony is an extra ten years here over and above the base crime time.

Re: Right to Carry, 2nd Amendment [Re: AlecThigpen] #165401
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All animals have the right to protect themselves, most carrying concealed or open weapons genetically engineered into them. The diversity of weapons in the animal kingdom is mind boggling, even at the human level of innovation.

Great idea laugh -- I could get a pet skunk to carry around with me and train it to fire on command.

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