| How much would YOU pay for a Supercat 20 in your area? #196155 11/13/09 11:08 AM 11/13/09 11:08 AM |
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 169 Santa Barbara CA sbflyer OP
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Posts: 169 Santa Barbara CA | One just popped up right down the road,so I'm trying to get a feel for prices and problems to look for (yes, I'm searching too!) Trailer is non expanding, the boat's been sitting for years getting lichen covered but should pressure wash off, but has a new tramp that's never been rigged, dacron sails. The guy bought it 8 years ago, then had hip problems and never actually rigged it and sailed it...Thanks ahead of time for anybody's info.
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#196176 11/13/09 02:02 PM 11/13/09 02:02 PM |
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Posts: 160 North Carolina | I know that there are at least a couple guys in hobiefleet 32 that have Supercats. If you could contact them they may be able to help out.
James 1983 Hobie 16'
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Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 284 Norfolk, VA Dan Berger
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Posts: 284 Norfolk, VA | I'm one of those guys in Fleet 32... A 20 in good shape with everything could be $4500 or so, but if it needs a tramp, sails, rigging and general work, it could be $1000-1500. Parts for them aren't cheap. If it has solid beams, then that adds a lot--the telescoping trailer is nice, but not necessary. Check out the forums at http://www.aquarius-sail.com/ to get more focused info. Someone may know the boat and could give you more info.
Dan Berger Norfolk, VA A Cat USA139 Supercat 15
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Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 284 Norfolk, VA Dan Berger
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Posts: 284 Norfolk, VA | Problem areas:
Supercats are usually bulletproof, but sometimes there are issues.
Older SC20s had an issue with the bow tangs pulling out. That was fixed, but I have heard of a few that had the failure. I think there is an article about it on Aquarius' site. If not, ask and someone could tell you about it.
I have never seen one that has delaminated! If yours has delamination, it means it was really abused and neglected.
I have heard a lot of horror stories about the sterns getting ripped off the boats. The SC steering is really nice and it locks down (and releases well) but sometimes people have them over tightened and they don't flip up when needed. It isn't a factor of poor engineering, it is a factor of poor rigging (IMHO).
The biggest problem with a SC20 is finding the stones to sail the thing. When it is blowing and you are screaming along, it sounds like a freight train and the spray coming off the bows is like a fire hose.
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Posts: 1,304 Gulf Coast relocated from Cali... | I was on one last summer when the rear crossbeam ripped free of the hull. I've also seen a few nacras do that as well. If you're going to sail one, bring a good radio with you to call the Coasties when you flip, cause you aint gonna right it.
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Posts: 15 Ione, CA | Regarding righting... I have a SC 20 and have solo righted it and am 200 lbs. The key is in the shroud extenders which get the hull over center so that the weight of the hull helps right it.
As for issues I think they are pretty good. I'd check the hulls around the dagger wells and the transoms. If they look good then I don't know what else to look at.
-Eric SC20 #113
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Posts: 678 Palm Beach County | You need Craig from CyberSpeed he keeps a keen eye on the SC20 market. He has owned several and has about 1 1/2 boats right now. I think I've worked on most of his boats at one time or another. Craig keeps his boat on the beach, on the ocean, and sails the snot out of it! Both Craig and I have beaten our boats over the years with hard use and Tons of Fun. They are a good boat, look around how many beach cats period are still sailing that are 20 - 30 years old. If they are used actively or raced then they had some work done to them. Why would you expect a boat to be different then anything else? The SuperCat is a foam sandwich construction so repairs have to be made properly. I’ve worked on several different SuperCats and never seen any major break that could not be fixed and it was usually caused by abuse from the skipper. Here is a link to a restore I did to a SC20 http://www.themanshed.net/archived-projects/supercat-20.html
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