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Re: New Capricorn Delievered to Builders [Re: Tony_F18] #198381
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Re: New Capricorn Delievered to Builders [Re: HJS] #198500
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Originally Posted by HJS
Just spoken to AHPC, and they are NOT building a new Capricorn!!


SO new F18 from AHPC called the C2 officially unveiled at the Paris Boat Show. Guess "your" information is not really correct.

Re: New Capricorn Delievered to Builders [Re: taipanfc] #198504
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Since when does C2 spell Capricorn?

Ask Brett and Greg from AHPC. They decided on the C2 as it still linked with the Capricorn, WITHOUT being called Capricorn....

Re: New Capricorn Delievered to Builders [Re: HJS] #198513
12/08/09 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by HJS
Since when does C2 spell Capricorn?

Ask Brett and Greg from AHPC. They decided on the C2 as it still linked with the Capricorn, WITHOUT being called Capricorn....


Really, semantics? So if the post was, AHPC is building a new F18, your reply would have been different?

I'll put this one on the list with the claim that you can be competitve at 400lbs (181 Kilos) on a Viper.


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Re: New Capricorn Delievered to Builders [Re: David Ingram] #198526
12/08/09 11:01 AM
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You guys are getting ruffled over nothing. There IS a new Capricorn design with the flattened stern and raised rear beam. It is going to be built in South America, and I'm of the understanding that it was originally what AHPC were going to be offering as well. At some point Greg and Brett decided to go in another direction altogether, and they designed the C2 based on their experience with the Capricorn and the Viper. The C2 is wholly their own design now, and not a Fisher boat.

So, is there a new Cap? Yes. Is the C2 the boat that was under discussion? Not really - though the original post in the thread was accurate regarding changes in the 2010 Capricorn, the C2 is a new animal. Like Hobie, AHPC now has two F18s on the market.


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Re: New Capricorn Delievered to Builders [Re: John Williams] #198551
12/08/09 03:14 PM
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from what you wrote John sounds like there are three f18s from AHPC....

Last edited by Chris9; 12/08/09 03:26 PM.

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Re: New Capricorn Delievered to Builders [Re: Chris9] #198582
12/08/09 05:20 PM
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Only two in production for 2010, as far as I know... did I miss another memo?


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Gary Player, pro golfer

After watching Lionel Messi play, I realize I need to sail harder.
Re: New Capricorn Delievered to Builders [Re: John Williams] #198588
12/08/09 06:11 PM
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a few other pictures form Paris here:

http://www.catsailing.hu/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=31&page=2

the new cap and others.



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Re: New Capricorn Delievered to Builders [Re: Chris9] #198623
12/09/09 07:28 AM
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Is not that complicated.

As John said, a modified version of the original Capricorn is being built in Argentina (basically raised rear beam mod only, pics soon)

The C2 is the new F18 from AHPC, resembles the Cap? yes , as the Wildcat and Infusion did.
All boats are converging in a common gral proven shape which the original Cap help to stablish.



Re: New Capricorn Delievered to Builders [Re: CatSailingHu] #198691
12/09/09 02:35 PM
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Thanks, CatSailingHu, at last some really illustrative photographs. Is the show in Paris worth the trip from Hungary? I'm considering Düsseldorf (which is a much shorter distance to travel for me) in January, but I'm not sure yet ...
Kai


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Re: New Capricorn Delievered to Builders [Re: Baltic] #198696
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Originally Posted by Baltic
Thanks, CatSailingHu, at last some really illustrative photographs. Is the show in Paris worth the trip from Hungary? I'm considering Düsseldorf (which is a much shorter distance to travel for me) in January, but I'm not sure yet ...
Kai

Any information on C2 prices? (€)
I like how they moved the mast-rotation from the boom to the mastbase, that should stop people from snagging their lifejacket behind it.
Dusseldorf is not worth the trip if you want to see beachcats, I only go to buy cheap kitesurfing gear and stare at the megayachts.

Re: New Capricorn Delievered to Builders [Re: Baltic] #198841
12/11/09 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Baltic
Thanks, CatSailingHu, at last some really illustrative photographs. Is the show in Paris worth the trip from Hungary? I'm considering Düsseldorf (which is a much shorter distance to travel for me) in January, but I'm not sure yet ...
Kai


I had also other business to go in Paris (F18 wc meeting). So as I was just 1km from the show, it was logical to visit, but I do not think I would travel from Budapest just for the boatshow.

I was happy to see the Volvo 40, the wild cat and the new cap.

The new cap is really nice. The carbon daggerboars and rudder blades looks great, and yes, the mast rotator/mast foot also a nice development.

They changed to separate tack line for the spi, and there is an interesting auto relase solution for the tack line, check
this above the tramp

[Linked Image]

and under

[Linked Image]






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Re: New Capricorn Delievered to Builders [Re: CatSailingHu] #198935
12/14/09 06:42 AM
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Check out http://www.voilesetvoiliers.com/chantier/video/2597/video-voile-cata-de-sport-c2-l-excellence-en-f18
Great Video of AHPC new C2 at the Paris boat show..... Even better if you can speak French!!

Re: New Capricorn Delievered to Builders [Re: HJS] #198950
12/14/09 10:46 AM
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Thank you for posting that. I enjoyed it.

Re: New Capricorn Delievered to Builders [Re: CatSailingHu] #198988
12/15/09 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by CatSailingHu

They changed to separate tack line for the spi, and there is an interesting auto relase solution for the tack line.


I am a big fan of the one line halyard-/tack line-system: very convenient and less clutter on the deck. What may have made them to return to the standard solution?


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Re: New Capricorn Delievered to Builders [Re: Baltic] #198993
12/15/09 06:12 AM
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Can set at shyer angles
Reduced chance of jamming, halyard twisting or double pulley failure
More control over set. ie can let out required halyard or tack line without doing both at the same time.

Can you tell I am a fan of it. grin


Re: New Capricorn Delievered to Builders [Re: Tornado_ALIVE] #199005
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Re: New Capricorn Delievered to Builders [Re: Baltic] #199249
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First photos of the C2 testing at http://www.ahpc.com.au/Index.html with more to come!!!

Thought you might be interested.

Re: New Capricorn Delievered to Builders [Re: taipanfc] #199908
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please refer to this link for some new C2 pictures and first impressions of french dealer who was lucky enough to sail the C2.

Re: New Capricorn Delievered to Builders [Re: taipanfc] #199909
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now including the link. sorry..

http://catsailingnews.blogspot.com/

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