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Coconut grove sails A Invitational? Rick? #200298
01/11/10 05:42 PM
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Hey Rick,
How 'bout hoppin' in that civic and slip on down to the Islander and let us Know how the A cat racing is going.

Anybody else got any news?

The Todd


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Re: Coconut grove sails A Invitational? Rick? [Re: Team_Cat_Fever] #200300
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Re: Coconut grove sails A Invitational? Rick? [Re: Team_Cat_Fever] #200327
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The Civic only runs in temps over 70 degrees, as does its driver. grin
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Re: Coconut grove sails A Invitational? Rick? [Re: RickWhite] #200332
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Sad to admit that Sailing Anarchy is already the best place where to go to find news about multihulls.

Re: Coconut grove sails A Invitational? Rick? [Re: Catfan] #200336
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Anarchy OTW is covering this real well.
http://forums.sailinganarchy.com/index.php?showtopic=101842
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Re: Coconut grove sails A Invitational? Rick? [Re: Catfan] #200343
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Gotta say, it bothers me as well. I believe Mary and I were extremely helpful in establishing ACat racing in the Keys when we had the Hotel.
Guess someone got mad at us when we sold it, and have ignored us ever since. They once were one of the biggest fleets in the Tradewinds, and now only a handful come to it, despite being right across the street and within a day or two.
So, I question why information was NOT sent to me? I frankly do not know the answer. I doubt if SA does as much for the A-Cats as I have.
Sorry for venting.
Rick


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Re: Coconut grove sails A Invitational? Rick? [Re: RickWhite] #200344
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I thought a good portion of the A cat fleet also race F18.


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Re: Coconut grove sails A Invitational? Rick? [Re: RickWhite] #200355
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Originally Posted by RickWhite
Gotta say, it bothers me as well. I believe Mary and I were extremely helpful in establishing ACat racing in the Keys when we had the Hotel.
Guess someone got mad at us when we sold it, and have ignored us ever since. They once were one of the biggest fleets in the Tradewinds, and now only a handful come to it, despite being right across the street and within a day or two.
So, I question why information was NOT sent to me? I frankly do not know the answer. I doubt if SA does as much for the A-Cats as I have.
Sorry for venting.
Rick


The exposure for the A class is much more valuable on Sailing Anarchy. Catsailor only exposes A’s to the catamaran segment of the sailing market. Sailing Anarchy exposes the class to the entire sailing market. The biggest gains to be made for A cats is monohull converts so a Sailing Anarchy exclusive makes sense for them I think.

Re: Coconut grove sails A Invitational? Rick? [Re: rhodysail] #200382
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Agreed, but why be ignored? Our website averages 6 milliion hits per month, and has always been ranked as one of the top sites worldwide for ANY kind of boating.
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Re: Coconut grove sails A Invitational? Rick? [Re: RickWhite] #200387
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Re: Coconut grove sails A Invitational? Rick? [Re: RickWhite] #200426
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Originally Posted by RickWhite
Agreed, but why be ignored? Our website averages 6 milliion hits per month, and has always been ranked as one of the top sites worldwide for ANY kind of boating.
Rick


I get the impression that it’s a SA guy that went down to do the reporting so it wouldn’t make much sense for him to give the story away to another site.

Re: Coconut grove sails A Invitational? Rick? [Re: rhodysail] #200428
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Got me thinking... and looking for stats.

According to (http://www.quantcast.com) Catsailor.com averages 3.8 k (people visiting) and peaked in August with just under 12 k

Meanwhile Sailinganarchy.com was running at about 100 k and is now at close to 400 k people visiting.

I'd say they are pretty hot.

Check it out: http://www.quantcast.com/sailinganarchy.com

Hobiecat.com is doing pretty well in the ranking as well.

The "hits" is pretty useless as it refers to url links... each and every image, page and object accessed.


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Re: Coconut grove sails A Invitational? Rick? [Re: mmiller] #200441
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That's nice ,come into Ricks house and start slinging mud.
Why don't you check the stats on the OTWA page alone for the A Invitational. Using the whole SA site as a benchmark is a little off when this is solely a catamaran site. I checked the OTWA regularly for updates, and while I appreciate the news, I didn't see more than 8 or 10 people on at any given time, so I'm not sure there was a huge media blitz.


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Re: Coconut grove sails A Invitational? Rick? [Re: Team_Cat_Fever] #200443
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OTWA is cool and all but sheeze they should seriously do something to reduce the noise. They have been doing it for years, I would assume that bye now they would have it figured out.

Re: Coconut grove sails A Invitational? Rick? [Re: Team_Cat_Fever] #200444
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Personally, I think it is great that Sailing Anarchy is covering the A-Class regatta and that the America's cup challenge is bringing more attention to multihulls by the "mainstream" sailing media.

Publications like Catamaran Sailor and the Hobie Hotline (and sometimes Multihulls Magazine) cater to and try to keep together the existing small-multihull sailors, but the key to survival and growth has always been to reach out to the rest of the sailing world -- and beyond that to the nonsailing world.

Re: Coconut grove sails A Invitational? Rick? [Re: Mary] #200467
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And ignore their roots, Mary?

Shouldn't someone managing that regatta get a report out to all the media?

For the upcoming Tradewinds I sent out a PR pre-race story to ALL the local papers. Had I sent to only one, I would be in a heap of trouble in the future.
Most of them published the story.., some editing, some not. But they all got the same story at the same time.
Rick


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Re: Coconut grove sails A Invitational? Rick? [Re: Team_Cat_Fever] #200475
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Originally Posted by Team_Cat_Fever
That's nice ,come into Ricks house and start slinging mud.


That is a bit twisted. The question was whether sailing anarchy is a valid place to promote cat sailing. The stats show the traffic. You look at it closer you find that "visits" are high here at Catsailor... same faces over and over. If you want to promote, you need to hit more venues for new faces.

Catsailor has this event right down the street and can easily cover it here if they want.


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Re: Coconut grove sails A Invitational? Rick? [Re: mmiller] #200478
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Originally Posted by mmiller
Originally Posted by Team_Cat_Fever
That's nice ,come into Ricks house and start slinging mud.


That is a bit twisted. The question was whether sailing anarchy is a valid place to promote cat sailing. The stats show the traffic. You look at it closer you find that "visits" are high here at Catsailor... same faces over and over. If you want to promote, you need to hit more venues for new faces.

Catsailor has this event right down the street and can easily cover it here if they want.


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I checked the OTWA regularly for updates, and while I appreciate the news, I didn't see more than 8 or 10 people on at any given time, so I'm not sure there was a huge media blitz.


If you had looked at the bottom of the page that shows who's viewing you would have seen the same. I'm not busting on SA, I think that was the most responsible coverage I've seen Clean do( minus the tirade on the volunteer driver, I'd have put his kiester in the drink) and was extremely glad for the info but, the way I see it is ,it doesn't have to be one or the other. Why not both cover it?
Most of the guys I know in the A fleets came from some kind of cat. The viewers I saw on the SA coverage were mostly the guys I see in the multihull page, and again there was only a handful.So pulling in the mono guys is flawed logic IMO if it's at the expense of established catsailors. Obviously by my original post ,I was hoping Rick would check it out.I guess we need to buy Rick a warm coat.


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Re: Coconut grove sails A Invitational? Rick? [Re: Team_Cat_Fever] #200479
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The biggest hit is getting on their front page of news items. That way a LOT of different people see it. A Cats have a couple items there today and that is what most people come to their site for... news, and interesting sailing tid bits. There just isn't anything like that here at Catsailor, which is primarily forums. The front page here is rarely updated and is limited to occasional regatta reports.


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Re: Coconut grove sails A Invitational? Rick? [Re: mmiller] #200480
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There's a front page??? shocked laugh

That is good, I hadn't seen that.


"I said, now, I said ,pay attention boy!"

The cure for anything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea
Isak Dinesen
If a man is to be obsessed by something.... I suppose a boat is as good as anything... perhaps a bit better than most.
E. B. White
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