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Construction of Garage Mahal has begun! #216973
08/02/10 06:10 PM
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Re: Construction of Garage Mahal has begun! [Re: Jake] #216976
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I'd put some sort of roof over the stairs.

Re: Construction of Garage Mahal has begun! [Re: Karl_Brogger] #216977
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you should cut a slot in the roof for mast up storage smile

looks great.

Re: Construction of Garage Mahal has begun! [Re: ] #216979
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Look great, we're thinking of something simular but not as big.

Good luck, you doing this yourself?

Re: Construction of Garage Mahal has begun! [Re: Nimrod] #216980
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Originally Posted by Nimrod
Look great, we're thinking of something simular but not as big.

Good luck, you doing this yourself?


I would really like to but there's no way I would have time to handle the construction and the height of the structure dictates scaffolding or lift equipment with multiple hands - I've hired a builder to put it in the dry (including finished exterior and concrete). I'll take over at that point with the wiring, plumbing, flooring, and HVAC...I will hopefully have enough left in the budget to contract the insulating and drywall...those are time consuming tasks (and tasks that I'm not a big fan of doing).

I was going to go 24x24 but a couple sailor/builder friends of mine gave the same piece of advice....they both said that "people complain about building it too small and they complain about it costing too much but nobody complains about building it too big."


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Re: Construction of Garage Mahal has begun! [Re: Jake] #216985
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The extra space will be nice Jake. My garage is 24' deep and the 20 hulls did NOT want to fit in there with the other garage type crap.

Also, when you get one of those RC winged tri's going, I'll purchase one from you since most of my sailing is going to be on a gator pond across the street.

Re: Construction of Garage Mahal has begun! [Re: Jake] #216986
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Originally Posted by Jake
I'll take over at that point with the wiring, plumbing, flooring, and HVAC...

You can't have too much power or outlets. Install compressor outlets into the walls. Consider built-in vacuum system.


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Re: Construction of Garage Mahal has begun! [Re: hobie1616] #216987
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Originally Posted by hobie1616
Consider built-in vacuum system.


Not worth the hassle in my opinion. Money better spent on a good moveable shop vac. Fein, Alto-Wap, Festool, etc.


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Re: Construction of Garage Mahal has begun! [Re: Karl_Brogger] #216990
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Make sure your electric service is up to the anticipated load. It is surprisingly inexpensive to upgrade.


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Re: Construction of Garage Mahal has begun! [Re: John Williams] #216993
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When I built my detached garage I added two buried conduits between the house and the new slab for the garage. One was for power, the other was for future (if needed) stuff. Well, the second one is now full with phone lines, cat5, coax, cctv wiring, low voltage wire for the garage door, etc. It came in real handy.


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Never underestimate the power of dust collection. You can even run a hose to a table made of peg boards and use it for a down flow table for sanding. I hate having to drag my shop vac around. Check out Harbor Freight for a cheap but decent DC.


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Re: Construction of Garage Mahal has begun! [Re: John Williams] #217015
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Originally Posted by John Williams
Make sure your electric service is up to the anticipated load. It is surprisingly inexpensive to upgrade.


Great advice on here, thanks! I did call the power company and asked them about putting a dedicated service on the new structure - they said that the County probably wouldn't allow it since it will be attached to the existing structure...which is debatable since my shop is attached only by a shared roof over unlivable carport / breezeway...but they're running the numbers on my existing service to see if it will support the additional heatpumps, RV plug, welder, etc.


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how are they bracing the gable ends? I'm not sure where your house is, but remember windstorm mitigation...it will save a lot on your eventual insurance premium...

Might consider one of those mist fire sprinkler systems too... they don't spray as much water, but do the same job (minimizing collateral damage). Garage fires are the worst.. don't ask me how I know


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Originally Posted by Jake
...but they're running the numbers on my existing service to see if it will support the additional heatpumps, RV plug, welder, etc.


Fixed it for ya: grin
...but they're running the numbers on my existing service to see if it will support
the additional LED-beamers, plasma TV, walkin-fridge, subwoofers, xbox, grill, microwave, jacuzzi

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Re: Construction of Garage Mahal has begun! [Re: Tony_F18] #217022
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Now that's a MAN CAVE! smile

Only thing missing to make it truly manish is an old skool waterbed (the big bag kind)....


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Every garage should have a floor drain ......

"ARRRRRrrrrrrr ...." Tim (ToolTime) Taylor

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Originally Posted by HMurphey
Every garage should have a floor drain ......

"ARRRRRrrrrrrr ...." Tim (ToolTime) Taylor
Good point!

Unless you get super crazy with big loads, i.e. hot tub, BIG electric motor/s (>3h.p.), resistance loads (electric heat), a 60 amp. sub-panel will be large enough (guessing your load to be ~9kW max.) Add surge suppression to your low voltage cables (phone, video, etc.) where they enter the Garage (buried conduit from house?) Lightning seeks the smallest wires first.


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That is too cool! I am so jealous.
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Re: Construction of Garage Mahal has begun! [Re: HMurphey] #217042
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Originally Posted by HMurphey
Every garage should have a floor drain ......

"ARRRRRrrrrrrr ...." Tim (ToolTime) Taylor

Don't forget to put a NASCAR shop paint job on the floor.


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Re: Construction of Garage Mahal has begun! [Re: _flatlander_] #217046
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Originally Posted by _flatlander_
Originally Posted by HMurphey
Every garage should have a floor drain ......

"ARRRRRrrrrrrr ...." Tim (ToolTime) Taylor
Good point!

Unless you get super crazy with big loads, i.e. hot tub, BIG electric motor/s (>3h.p.), resistance loads (electric heat), a 60 amp. sub-panel will be large enough (guessing your load to be ~9kW max.) Add surge suppression to your low voltage cables (phone, video, etc.) where they enter the Garage (buried conduit from house?) Lightning seeks the smallest wires first.


I was going to run a 100Amp line over from my existing 200Amp service. In addition to the two 1Ton heat pumps and RV that may run it's AC from time to time, I'll have one or two Dye Sub heat presses running that each require a dedicated 20 amp circuit. That's not to mention a pretty hefty 80gallon 175psi compressor.


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