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For sand, I use 2x4 (about 2' long) with a line tied to them.
We keep our boats on the beach over here for 6 months per year; through many spring and autumn storms and this is the only reliable way to do it as far as I know. Some use old vehicle tires that are buried but that would be sufficient to moor a bulk carrier to. Wouter
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08/11/10 08:52 AM 08/11/10 08:52 AM |
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Orlando, FL tback
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Orlando, FL | on the beach, I use a couple of 30" auger style anchors available from Northern Tools for a pretty reasonable $7 each. http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200336262_200336262On harder, more stable ground, I have a couple of 15" versions of the same auger. I've used the dog style screws for tie downs but I've broken three of the handles off while screwing them in the ground or trying to remove them from the ground. I've not had any trouble with the augers and a piece of conduit to form a "T" handle to work them into the ground. Ace Hardware has various sizes of these type of anchors (if a Northern Tool isn't accessible to you).
USA 777
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Naples, FL waterbug_wpb
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Naples, FL | on the beach, I use a couple of 30" auger style anchors available from Northern Tools for a pretty reasonable $7 each. http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200336262_200336262On harder, more stable ground, I have a couple of 15" versions of the same auger. I've used the dog style screws for tie downs but I've broken three of the handles off while screwing them in the ground or trying to remove them from the ground. I've not had any trouble with the augers and a piece of conduit to form a "T" handle to work them into the ground. Jake, Please use the correct terminology. Those anchors are correctly termed "redneck home insurance policies" as they are used to tie down the trailer parks... I used a broomstick to get those bad-boys cinched down in the dirt and then use a ratchet strap to connect it to the mainbeam. If it really looked nasty, I'd add another one to the rear beam, or one on each side tied to the shroud chainplate.. Attaching to beams made it easier to screw in the anchor using the broomstick piece (didn't hit the boat when rotating)
Jay
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08/11/10 01:56 PM 08/11/10 01:56 PM |
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| Unfortunately, my boat was staked down and the mast rotator was taught. It pulled the nearly 4 feet of the auger out of the sand. More F18 than F16 flipped and they were staked down as well. Wind was howling. What I did learn was to stake down both sides using the trap wires.
Mark Thomson has loaned me his Blade mast and I am back in business. I use various anchor methods depending on the soil. For sand, I use 2x4 (about 2' long) with a line tied to them. I dig a hole in the sand to bury the 2x4 and then secure it to the trap line (same for the other side). If the ground is hard I use 18" screw anchors for each side and tie the line to the trap handle. how deep do you bury the 2x4? | | | Re: Racine Catamaran Championships 2010
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08/11/10 02:16 PM 08/11/10 02:16 PM |
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South Carolina Jake
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South Carolina | on the beach, I use a couple of 30" auger style anchors available from Northern Tools for a pretty reasonable $7 each. http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200336262_200336262On harder, more stable ground, I have a couple of 15" versions of the same auger. I've used the dog style screws for tie downs but I've broken three of the handles off while screwing them in the ground or trying to remove them from the ground. I've not had any trouble with the augers and a piece of conduit to form a "T" handle to work them into the ground. Jake, Please use the correct terminology. Those anchors are correctly termed "redneck home insurance policies" as they are used to tie down the trailer parks... I used a broomstick to get those bad-boys cinched down in the dirt and then use a ratchet strap to connect it to the mainbeam. If it really looked nasty, I'd add another one to the rear beam, or one on each side tied to the shroud chainplate.. Attaching to beams made it easier to screw in the anchor using the broomstick piece (didn't hit the boat when rotating) hah...I thought they were for big tents! I put mine on either side of the boat out to the side (room permitting). I then tie a trap line from each side to the anchor.
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Maryland Kris Hathaway
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Maryland | Local Southern States calls them horse ties.
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Portland, Maine | I'm not planning on racing the pre-regatta, I don't want Ricky to get discouraged before the big show. Heating up ... 26 09 672 David Ingram Kathy Ingram 15.0 23.0 (39.0) 23.0 34.0 134.0 95.0
29 18 1025 Todd Riccardi Brendon Scanlon 34.0 (38.0) 24.0 38.0 10.0 144.0 106.0 Only 11 points separate what could be, the battle of the millenium. | | | Re: Racine Catamaran Championships 2010
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South Carolina Jake
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South Carolina | I'm not planning on racing the pre-regatta, I don't want Ricky to get discouraged before the big show. Heating up ... 26 09 672 David Ingram Kathy Ingram 15.0 23.0 (39.0) 23.0 34.0 134.0 95.0
29 18 1025 Todd Riccardi Brendon Scanlon 34.0 (38.0) 24.0 38.0 10.0 144.0 106.0 Only 11 points separate what could be, the battle of the millenium. Man, I haven't paid the first "hat" debt yet. Todd...dude...kick it.
Jake Kohl
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Atlanta, Ga | Are all the results not updated.. how is it that F18s have sailed five races and all other fleets have only sailed one?
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uk | Are all the results not updated.. how is it that F18s have sailed five races and all other fleets have only sailed one? Because they are still discussing how to tie their boats down!
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Lakewood, Colorado | Are all the results not updated.. how is it that F18s have sailed five races and all other fleets have only sailed one? Because they are still discussing how to tie their boats down! I thought maybe it was because they couldn't get them untied fast enough to get to the start line on time.
Life is not about waiting for the storms to pass...
It's about learning to dance in the rain
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Santa Cruz, CA | The results aren't up because everyone's drinking beer at a kick a$$ party.  J
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08/12/10 06:40 AM 08/12/10 06:40 AM |
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Chicago, Illinois USA | This is the style that I used...but only one tied to the dophin striker. We had another regatta this year where we had 50+ mph winds and it worked fine. Not so this time.
There is a breakwall and the closer you were to the breakwall, the better that night. Mine was one of the furthest out boats.
Blade F16 USA 725
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Chicago, Illinois USA | I think no results because of the party last night. We were late off the water to boot.
I know the top 2 F18 are Mischa and Macca. Then someone else followed by Robbie I think. 20s, its Trey, then somebody else, then Mike Hill. 16s its the Feldmans and Karl Brogger.
It was in the local paper along with some nice shots from the helicopter, but I left the paper in the breakfast room.
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Orlando, FL | Unfortunately, my boat was staked down and the mast rotator was taught. It pulled the nearly 4 feet of the auger out of the sand. More F18 than F16 flipped and they were staked down as well. Wind was howling. What I did learn was to stake down both sides using the trap wires.
Mark Thomson has loaned me his Blade mast and I am back in business. I use various anchor methods depending on the soil. For sand, I use 2x4 (about 2' long) with a line tied to them. I dig a hole in the sand to bury the 2x4 and then secure it to the trap line (same for the other side). If the ground is hard I use 18" screw anchors for each side and tie the line to the trap handle. how deep do you bury the 2x4? I have a small shovel and dig out the sand about 18" deep, insert the 2 x 4 and cover with the sand and tap down with your feet. You won't pull it out of the sand easily!
USA 777
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Annapolis, MD Mark Schneider
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Annapolis, MD | Hopefully he is starting with the F16's and can race the other single handers boat for boat.... Otherwise... Why Bother?
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