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Re: East Coast endurance race, would you do it? [Re: waterbug_wpb] #240645
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Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb
I see the beginnings of the "1,000 Ruble Cup" race. I'd even be willing to post the prize of 1,000 Russian Rubles if I can find some...

Not having competed in Watertribe events,


I can supply Rubles,it is only $30, after all.

Can I do it solo? If so, I'll start shopping for a boat.

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Re: East Coast endurance race, would you do it? [Re: Team_Cat_Fever] #240646
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Can this be done?


Two guys sailed a beach cat across the atlantic... Of course it can be done. (They ended up in the hospital when they finally made land though.)


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Re: East Coast endurance race, would you do it? [Re: daniel_t] #240647
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There was a solo guy too. He did alright, without hospital.

Re: East Coast endurance race, would you do it? [Re: wildtsail] #240649
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I thought opinions were what was being asked about. Like I said, not being a tybee guy limits what my opinion is worth, but as soon as I read 'securing permits' for landing sites I, personally, surrender.
Wasnt the tybee 'cancelled' last year due to lack of interest?
Is a relatively non structured open water race on open cats a good thing for our sport?

Re: East Coast endurance race, would you do it? [Re: Team_Cat_Fever] #240652
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No opinions or suggestions were asked for. The question was simply "would you do the race as described"?
I think it would be great for the sport . The Worrell certainly was.I'm sure a bunch of douchebags that were never involved with it will now bring up it's demise.


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Re: East Coast endurance race, would you do it? [Re: Vladimir] #240654
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Originally Posted by Vladimir
Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb
I see the beginnings of the "1,000 Ruble Cup" race. I'd even be willing to post the prize of 1,000 Russian Rubles if I can find some...

Not having competed in Watertribe events,


I can supply Rubles,it is only $30, after all.

Can I do it solo? If so, I'll start shopping for a boat.


Vlad,
If anyone could do it solo it would be you. The organizer is reading the thread so it should be considered.


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Re: East Coast endurance race, would you do it? [Re: Team_Cat_Fever] #240655
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I'd be interested, but not for a while. I need to do some distance racing before I tackle something as major as 1k miles. As of right now I just like the idea, but don't know if I'd like the experience.


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Re: East Coast endurance race, would you do it? [Re: Team_Cat_Fever] #240656
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Originally Posted by Team_Cat_Fever
.I'm sure a bunch of douchebags that were never involved with it will now bring up it's demise.

Would that be referring to me?
No, I wouldnt do the race as described.

Re: East Coast endurance race, would you do it? [Re: PTP] #240657
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Originally Posted by PTP
I thought opinions were what was being asked about. Like I said, not being a tybee guy limits what my opinion is worth, but as soon as I read 'securing permits' for landing sites I, personally, surrender.
Wasnt the tybee 'cancelled' last year due to lack of interest?
Is a relatively non structured open water race on open cats a good thing for our sport?


I know - i thought the same thing too...BUT, if you're just hitting the beach to swap out crew memeber(s), I think you can probably do that under the radar without a problem. If you broke down and needed to spend more time on the beach, I can't imagine the law enforcement making you take your non-seaworthy craft back out into the ocean.

We have had some experiences having to beach in restricted access parks and such and it's usually not a problem if you have a good reason to do so.

I'm trying to wrap my head around the sailing rotations - what a challenge!

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Re: East Coast endurance race, would you do it? [Re: Team_Cat_Fever] #240659
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I like the idea. But if you made it from Sarasota to Charleston, I'd love it! Put a mandatory bell-ring checkpoint at Smather's Beach, so you know everyone made the "offshore' run to Key West OK, then the punch-drunk only need to keep the beach on the left all the way to Charlie town. For me, I think VB gets logistically too distant to want to plan the shoreside issues. But keep me posted.

Re: East Coast endurance race, would you do it? [Re: PeteCullum] #240660
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Originally Posted by PeteCullum
I like the idea. But if you made it from Sarasota to Charleston, I'd love it! Put a mandatory bell-ring checkpoint at Smather's Beach, so you know everyone made the "offshore' run to Key West OK, then the punch-drunk only need to keep the beach on the left all the way to Charlie town. For me, I think VB gets logistically too distant to want to plan the shoreside issues. But keep me posted.


I like that idea.

Re: East Coast endurance race, would you do it? [Re: PTP] #240661
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Originally Posted by PTP
Originally Posted by Team_Cat_Fever
.I'm sure a bunch of douchebags that were never involved with it will now bring up it's demise.

Would that be referring to me?
No, I wouldnt do the race as described.


Nope. I didn't see you write anything disparaging about the Worrell. Do a site search for Worrell and you'll see the trend whenever the name comes up, just don't want to cloud this thread with that BS.


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Re: East Coast endurance race, would you do it? [Re: Jake] #240662
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Originally Posted by Jake
Originally Posted by PTP
I thought opinions were what was being asked about. Like I said, not being a tybee guy limits what my opinion is worth, but as soon as I read 'securing permits' for landing sites I, personally, surrender.
Wasnt the tybee 'cancelled' last year due to lack of interest?
Is a relatively non structured open water race on open cats a good thing for our sport?


I know - i thought the same thing too...BUT, if you're just hitting the beach to swap out crew memeber(s), I think you can probably do that under the radar without a problem. If you broke down and needed to spend more time on the beach, I can't imagine the law enforcement making you take your non-seaworthy craft back out into the ocean.

We have had some experiences having to beach in restricted access parks and such and it's usually not a problem if you have a good reason to do so.

I'm trying to wrap my head around the sailing rotations - what a challenge!


Canaveral and Camp Legeune would obviously be NO GO areas. For everywhere else, I'd think you'd be in and out before anyone could do anything.Plus you could plan where to swap out and the lower profile spots would make more sense. Like Jake said ,as far as repairs go I can't imagine being turned away.
Crew rotations and night time cape roundings were what I've been thinking about. Seems you'd need 2 solid skippers, with one being crew at times and a super crew. It'd definitely take some serious thought.


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Re: East Coast endurance race, would you do it? [Re: Karl_Brogger] #240663
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Originally Posted by Karl_Brogger
I'd be interested, but not for a while. I need to do some distance racing before I tackle something as major as 1k miles. As of right now I just like the idea, but don't know if I'd like the experience.


You've got a year and a half, get crackin'. If I knew you wanted distance race experience I'd have gotten you to crew Steeplechase for me.


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Re: East Coast endurance race, would you do it? [Re: Team_Cat_Fever] #240666
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When is it? I'd probably be game if you're crew finds out what you're like. laugh


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Re: East Coast endurance race, would you do it? [Re: Karl_Brogger] #240668
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Trust me My crew already knows.
It's in about 2 weeks, already pulled the plug for this year. Great race though you oughta try it. I've done about 10 of 'em and it's still one of my favorites.


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Re: East Coast endurance race, would you do it? [Re: PeteCullum] #240674
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Originally Posted by PeteCullum
I like the idea. But if you made it from Sarasota to Charleston, I'd love it! Put a mandatory bell-ring checkpoint at Smather's Beach, so you know everyone made the "offshore' run to Key West OK, then the punch-drunk only need to keep the beach on the left all the way to Charlie town. For me, I think VB gets logistically too distant to want to plan the shoreside issues. But keep me posted.


FYI- Pete has done the Trans Pac a number of times and some other open water stuff. This is the type of challenge that brought him to catamarans in the first place. I assume there are other mono sailors interested as well.


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Re: East Coast endurance race, would you do it? [Re: Team_Cat_Fever] #240679
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Does your friend dictate that the race can only be Miami to Virginia? I could understand the nostalgia of past races, but would a different course be more conducive of greater interest? I'm asking lets say a race from Tampa around the tip of Key West or through the Keys, and up the east side to where ever? You could have multiple beaching points, check in points and like the GT 300, others could come out and race legs or sections for experience and a taste of the action. If you allowed others to take part you might generate intest for future years with large groups of racers. Given you have a lot of folks in Florida that would do it also. Even if they weren't racing, how many might be willing to man or volunteer at a check point to be a "part of the race?" Just an idea.

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Originally Posted By: bviningI think Mike wants to pull a Randy.

And how'd that work out... not too good.


Didnt Randy win the Worrell one year with a custom built cat with racks? That was my reference.

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If increase course distance, budget, and helm time is an issue?
I would like to see sailing team municipality rules. (a la A1GP)
My dineros would be on Team Fort Walton ?
By country it would be 1st Australia ?, 2nd ??

>A1 Grand Prix (A1GP) is a 'single make' open-wheel auto racing series. It is unique in its field in that competitors solely represent their nation as opposed to themselves or a team, the usual format in most formula racing series. <

>Unlike almost all other forms of auto racing, drivers do not score points individually; instead the points they earn are ascribed to their national team. This means that teams can change drivers between rounds, which is often necessary because some drivers have commitments in other formulae, and still accumulate points to their score.<

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