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Little help needed rigging the spinnaker #251422
08/15/12 04:19 PM
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Arjan13 Offline OP
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Tomorrow we would like to sail our spinnaker for the first time. We have figured out how to rig it for 80%, but have some doubts about the last part.

We have already managed to rig the sheets on the boat to the clew connection.

We've managed to rig the spi halyard and retrieverline (one peace of line from top of the spi to the pulley in the mast, down again, thrue a pulley on the beam, to the front, thrue a double pulley, to the back, thrue a clamcleat ( do not know if this is the right word), to the back of the trampoline, thrue a pulley, to the front, thrue the hole in the trampoline, rearside of the snufferbag, where it wil go thrue the patches, and connected to the last patch in the spi.

But we're not completely sure about the last part. Thats the separate line (halyard) which is connected to the other end of the double pulley (hanging loose halfway the spipole). We suppose one end goed to the tack corner of the sail? thrue the pulley on the end of the spipole? How to connect? Can anybody pleae give a short description?

Thanks a lot!

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Re: Little help needed rigging the spinnaker [Re: Arjan13] #251423
08/15/12 04:34 PM
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Yes, the pully at the end of the pole is for the tack line, you tie the line to the tack corner of the spin, run it out to the pully at the end of the pole, and then run it back to the main beam, along side of the pole.

Now, you have a choice to make, you can either tie another pully to the end of the line, and put the spin halyard through that pully, so when you raise the spin halyard, it will pull the tack line out too, or you can just dead end the tack line at a clete on the main beam, in which case, when you go to set the spinnaker, you'll pull out the tack line first, clete it, then pull the spin up with the (separate) halyard.


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Re: Little help needed rigging the spinnaker [Re: Arjan13] #251431
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Timbo, thanks for your reply! We were working on the 2nd option, in which the spin halyard is also pulling out the spinnaker.

So it's clear to me to tie it with one end on the tack corner of the sail, run it thrue the pylly on the end of the pole, than to the double pully where it's connected to the spin halyard.

But where does the end of this line go to? Where is this end attached to? Or is it in this case also the purpose to deead end it at the beam?

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most people have the tack line as a separate line.

dead ends at the beam with a cleat (and a plastic stopper ball)

Re: Little help needed rigging the spinnaker [Re: Arjan13] #251435
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You need a double back to back block/pulley for the one line system.


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Re: Little help needed rigging the spinnaker [Re: Arjan13] #251441
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Somebody will have to post a picture for you to fully understand what I'm trying to describe, a picture is worth a thousand words! There are a couple different ways you can do it, depending on which blocks/cletes you already have mounted on the front beam, you don't want to drill any more holes than you have to, so take a look at a picture or rigging diagram and see which way will work for the stuff you already have on the boat.

I prefer the two line setup, when I used the single line, it would always get twisted after a couple sets/take downs and it was much more drag trying to hoist the spin and pull the tack at the same time. Much less can go wrong with the two line setup, vs. the single line.


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Re: Little help needed rigging the spinnaker [Re: Arjan13] #251450
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Originally Posted by Arjan13

But we're not completely sure about the last part. Thats the separate line (halyard) which is connected to the other end of the double pulley (hanging loose halfway the spipole). We suppose one end goed to the tack corner of the sail? thrue the pulley on the end of the spipole? How to connect? Can anybody pleae give a short description?

Thanks a lot!


I've only rigged one boat w/ a mid-pole system, but I took that tack line like you said: from the tack of the sail, through the block at the fore end of the pole (over-around-under) back to & through the back-to-back block, and then back up the pole, attaching the end back onto the eyelet that the block is attached to. I just pulled the line through the eyelet and put a stopper knot on it b/c the sizes allowed.

Re: Little help needed rigging the spinnaker [Re: Arjan13] #251457
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Since a picture is worth so many words... Here is a bunch of them.

http://www.theracingcat.com/index.php?page=spinnaker-rigging

The page about about a Mosquito, but the single line system works the same.


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Re: Little help needed rigging the spinnaker [Re: yurdle] #251459
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Originally Posted by yurdle
Originally Posted by Arjan13

But we're not completely sure about the last part. Thats the separate line (halyard) which is connected to the other end of the double pulley (hanging loose halfway the spipole). We suppose one end goed to the tack corner of the sail? thrue the pulley on the end of the spipole? How to connect? Can anybody pleae give a short description?

Thanks a lot!


I've only rigged one boat w/ a mid-pole system, but I took that tack line like you said: from the tack of the sail, through the block at the fore end of the pole (over-around-under) back to & through the back-to-back block, and then back up the pole, attaching the end back onto the eyelet that the block is attached to. I just pulled the line through the eyelet and put a stopper knot on it b/c the sizes allowed.


Ok, thanks everybody! yesterday evening we went to the beach, and finally figured this out. The line goes back and you tie it up to the eyelet of the pulley. We've tested everything (made a few mistakes rigging the retriever, and halyard) and everything worked! We found about 5 smaller holes in the spinnaker which we'll have to repair, and unfortunately their was no wind at all at the time we're ready for our first test run. So sunday a new opportunity to sail it.
We found out that the most difficult part is to connect it to halyards, retrieverline and sheets without anything getting twisted. We'll need some practice here :-)


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