Announcements
New Discussions
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate Thread
Hop To
Page 2 of 2 1 2
Re: F18 spinnaker cleat? [Re: ] #250963
07/20/12 03:48 PM
07/20/12 03:48 PM
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 712
mikekrantz Offline
old hand
mikekrantz  Offline
old hand

Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 712
On N20's we always mounted a cleat on each side of the boom. The crew comes in to address something, and cleats the spin to the boom. Does his job, back on the wire, pops the sheet out.

-- Have You Seen This? --
Re: F18 spinnaker cleat? [Re: ] #250978
07/22/12 09:10 PM
07/22/12 09:10 PM

D
DuncanO
Unregistered
DuncanO
Unregistered
D



Okay, so I think I've got a bit more information after taking the boat out today. The wind was 11+ knots, my crew was really struggling to sheet or even hold the spinnaker. I've gotta get this sorted out. I had to rush once we got the boat out of the water today. But I'll get out to the club one day this week and take off one of the hull mounted blocks. If I can't get it to ratchet I'll take it to the rigging shop and see if they can advise. Otherwise I'll just replace it. I want to thank everyone for all their help, and I have realized that the existing setup is definitely not working.

Re: F18 spinnaker cleat? [Re: ] #250989
07/23/12 12:50 PM
07/23/12 12:50 PM
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 5,590
Naples, FL
waterbug_wpb Offline
Carpal Tunnel
waterbug_wpb  Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 5,590
Naples, FL
so, you check which ones are working each time you run the spin sheet through a block? Should be easy to sort out then (as well as if you've run any of them backwards)


Jay

Re: F18 spinnaker cleat? [Re: ] #251005
07/24/12 07:20 PM
07/24/12 07:20 PM

D
DuncanO
Unregistered
DuncanO
Unregistered
D



Okay so - I think I've arrived at a solution. The (previously hull mounted) blocks that I thought were Harken were 40mm Ronstan units that definitely do not ratchet. I'm planning on moving the 57mm ratchamatics to the hull position and I've ordered a pair of 57mm carbo ratchamatics for the beam. This combination should make it much easier to sheet the spinnaker. I will report back on how well this works.

Re: F18 spinnaker cleat? [Re: ] #251217
08/06/12 09:01 PM
08/06/12 09:01 PM

D
DuncanO
Unregistered
DuncanO
Unregistered
D



So today we were out in ~12knots with the spin and it was MUCH better. It was still a pain to sheet in under load (duh) but either of us could *hold* it with relative ease. I want to thank everyone here for all their assistance. The spinnaker has become a thing of pleasure (and power) again.

Re: F18 spinnaker cleat? [Re: ] #251290
08/10/12 06:56 PM
08/10/12 06:56 PM
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 984
2017 F18 Americas Site
Dan_Delave Offline
old hand
Dan_Delave  Offline
old hand

Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 984
2017 F18 Americas Site
I think it is best to have both ratcheting blocks and one with a switch to turn on or off. In light breeze we turn one off but in anything above about 7 knots they are both one. This will help the crew immensely.

Dan

Re: F18 spinnaker cleat? [Re: Dan_Delave] #251305
08/12/12 10:56 AM
08/12/12 10:56 AM
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 3,224
Roanoke Island ,N.C.
Team_Cat_Fever Offline
Carpal Tunnel
Team_Cat_Fever  Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 3,224
Roanoke Island ,N.C.
Originally Posted by Dan_Delave
I think it is best to have both ratcheting blocks and one with a switch to turn on or off. In light breeze we turn one off but in anything above about 7 knots they are both one. This will help the crew immensely.



Dan


+1


"I said, now, I said ,pay attention boy!"

The cure for anything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea
Isak Dinesen
If a man is to be obsessed by something.... I suppose a boat is as good as anything... perhaps a bit better than most.
E. B. White
Re: F18 spinnaker cleat? [Re: TeamChums] #251351
08/13/12 08:48 PM
08/13/12 08:48 PM
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 2,844
42.904444 N; 88.008586 W
Todd_Sails Offline
Carpal Tunnel
Todd_Sails  Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 2,844
42.904444 N; 88.008586 W
Originally Posted by TeamChums
Quote
Cleating a spin sheet is asking to go swimming.

Not totaly accurate. You just need to drive a little more conservatively. I've sailed SOLO all the way from Catalina Island to San Pedro Ca (Long Beach area) with my spin sheet wrapped around my windward daggerboard flying a hull the whole way. A cleat on the deck helps when the crew has to clear rudders and boards or anything else.


+1

Hey Lee,

I bought an Infusion yesterday!


F-18 Infusion
#626- SOLD it!

'Long Live the Legend of Chris Kyle'
Re: F18 spinnaker cleat? [Re: Team_Cat_Fever] #251352
08/13/12 08:50 PM
08/13/12 08:50 PM
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 2,844
42.904444 N; 88.008586 W
Todd_Sails Offline
Carpal Tunnel
Todd_Sails  Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 2,844
42.904444 N; 88.008586 W
Originally Posted by Team_Cat_Fever
Originally Posted by Dan_Delave
I think it is best to have both ratcheting blocks and one with a switch to turn on or off. In light breeze we turn one off but in anything above about 7 knots they are both one. This will help the crew immensely.



Dan


+1


And putting a simple 2 to 1 on the leeward side in a distance race


F-18 Infusion
#626- SOLD it!

'Long Live the Legend of Chris Kyle'
Re: F18 spinnaker cleat? [Re: Dan_Delave] #251473
08/17/12 01:27 PM
08/17/12 01:27 PM
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 120
M
maritimesailor Offline
member
maritimesailor  Offline
member
M

Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 120
Originally Posted by Dan_Delave
I think it is best to have both ratcheting blocks and one with a switch to turn on or off. In light breeze we turn one off but in anything above about 7 knots they are both one. This will help the crew immensely.

Dan


+1 on this. I actually like having the ratchet on the forward block (one on the beam) in light air as I find it lets the spin go smoother during gybes.

Also, no one mentioned gloves. Make sure your crew is using some sort of hardware store glove like this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Flex-Tuff-W..._DefaultDomain_0&hash=item337aaeb7a2

I cut the thumb and first two finger tips off, helps me deal with shackles, knots etc. These kind of gloves have WAY more holding power then your standard over priced sailing glove.



Re: F18 spinnaker cleat? [Re: ] #254174
10/31/12 09:25 AM
10/31/12 09:25 AM

M
MN3
Unregistered
MN3
Unregistered
M



many of us have cleats on our side stays specifically for cleating the spin. Esp when solo, it is nice to be able to give your hand a break, and some of us cleat, trap and just steer the boat instead of playing the spin.

We know it adds a small amount of risk, but it's easy to pop it out of the cleat to pay it out....

Re: F18 spinnaker cleat? [Re: ] #254273
11/03/12 03:03 AM
11/03/12 03:03 AM
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 4,118
Northfield Mn
Karl_Brogger Offline
Carpal Tunnel
Karl_Brogger  Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 4,118
Northfield Mn
I fell asleep one time on a very light air trip home from way down the lake from home with everything cleated going down wind.


I'm boatless.
Re: F18 spinnaker cleat? [Re: Karl_Brogger] #254339
11/05/12 02:36 PM
11/05/12 02:36 PM
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 5,590
Naples, FL
waterbug_wpb Offline
Carpal Tunnel
waterbug_wpb  Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 5,590
Naples, FL
Pops was passed out and snoring while laying on a spin sheet going downwind in my N20 at a light air Hiram's once... circa 2003 +/-

Speaking of Pops, what ever happened to his protoge' Noodle?


Jay

Page 2 of 2 1 2

Moderated by  Damon Linkous 

Search

Who's Online Now
0 registered members (), 26 guests, and 77 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Newest Members
toomanyhulls, madina9900, johngava, badcatsailor, wehnet
8119 Registered Users
Top Posters(30 Days)
Forum Statistics
Forums26
Topics22,398
Posts267,042
Members8,119
Most Online1,650
Sep 10th, 2019
--Advertisement--
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1