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Re: This winter in europe never seems to end.... [Re: Rolf_Nilsen] #258547
03/25/13 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Rolf_Nilsen
First, getting fined for that windsurfing experience is a horrendous ethical legal practice in my experience.

I think our friend is not telling the whole story.
The part between Texel and the mainland is a protected nature reserve (razende bol), I'm betting thats why he got the ticket.

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Re: This winter in europe never seems to end.... [Re: Karl_Brogger] #258548
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It only seems to be hot when you are not sailing. One more excuse to spend the day on the water.

Re: This winter in europe never seems to end.... [Re: northsea junkie] #258550
03/25/13 04:53 PM
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Lately I'm wearing my normal gloves (because the neoprene wears down) and I have a surfing glove with no vingers, (and also the handpalm is not covered)just for the cold. I'm still looking for neoprene with enough protetion for the sheet.

Re: This winter in europe never seems to end.... [Re: Karl_Brogger] #258551
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Originally Posted by Karl_Brogger
Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb

It is rare we approach the low 40's F in the pre-dawn hours, and also rare we don't top the upper 70's F later that day...


Yeah, but July & August it's so close to hell you can hear the souls screaming.


i'd venture a guess that your town has hit 95 F. I don't believe we've ever gone above that in the 30 years of recordings.

I don't think Miami has ever hit 100 F... ever

but yes, the mosquitos outside town have been known to carjack tourists

and two months of sweat is way better than 5 months of freeze... my blood's way too thin for that nonsense


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Re: This winter in europe never seems to end.... [Re: Arjan13] #258552
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Originally Posted by Arjan13
Lately I'm wearing my normal gloves (because the neoprene wears down) and I have a surfing glove with no vingers, (and also the handpalm is not covered)just for the cold. I'm still looking for neoprene with enough protetion for the sheet.

I use these all summer as well, great gloves:
http://www.gillmarine.com/gb/products/3-seasons-gloves-126/179

Re: This winter in europe never seems to end.... [Re: waterbug_wpb] #258553
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Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb
Originally Posted by Karl_Brogger
Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb

It is rare we approach the low 40's F in the pre-dawn hours, and also rare we don't top the upper 70's F later that day...


Yeah, but July & August it's so close to hell you can hear the souls screaming.


i'd venture a guess that your town has hit 95 F. I don't believe we've ever gone above that in the 30 years of recordings.

I don't think Miami has ever hit 100 F... ever

but yes, the mosquitos outside town have been known to carjack tourists

and two months of sweat is way better than 5 months of freeze... my blood's way too thin for that nonsense


Here here...

I'd rather have 364 days of 100/100 than one of anything less than 40.

The good lord gave us swimming pools for a reason.

To enjoy them.

Re: This winter in europe never seems to end.... [Re: northsea junkie] #258554
03/25/13 06:36 PM
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Can't escape the sun though. We'll have similar temps and humidity up here, but mother F'er is that sun brutal down there.

Sailing doesn't help, the Gulf is 80+ degrees in the summer. The water is about as soothing as leaping backwards through my own assh0le.


I'm boatless.
Re: This winter in europe never seems to end.... [Re: Tony_F18] #258558
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Originally Posted by Tony_F18

I think our friend is not telling the whole story.
The part between Texel and the mainland is a protected nature reserve (razende bol), I'm betting thats why he got the ticket.


Ho,hO.....Tony yre questioning my credibility here.

Mmmmm....as a man of honour I would have challenged you to a duel in the old days, but now in modern information-times I will confine myself to some remarks.

This story played in the early years of the eighties. The place was between Lands-end (Den Helder) and the barracks of the Dutch marines in the Mokbay on the island Texel. We were sailing (windsurfing) there always in force 7 to 8 westerly (ingoing) winds combined with an outgoing tidestream.

In fact in those same days Stephan vanden Berg (then our worldchamp windsurfing) wanted to change from course racing to sea surfing. So he asked if he could join us and we did rape his "sea maidenhead" overthere.

Authorities were not happy with this new surfing thing, because it was at the same place were the ferry-boat to Texel was crossing. They didn't understand that with outgoing tide there was always this automatically separation between the ferry and us. Because when we went down we were always sucked away by the tidal stream from the ferry.

However that made us so reckless that we used to sail (on the windside) just beside the ferry and making jumps on the bow-wave, being photograhed by hunderds of holiday passengers.

So, Tony, if you speak of a reason for my appearance for the court of law (toenmalig kantongerecht denhelder) I was indeed not complete with my story. It has nothing to do with the nature protection program (natura 2000) which was first installed around the year 2000. No, it had to do with uneasy authorities who couldn't cope with this new phenomenon windsurfing.
And in this accident with my friend and him being nearly drowned, they found reason for blowing this whole thing up infront of a court.

To finalize the story: After the prosecution we decide to move 1 km westwards to the tower of the coastgard (Huisduinen) and discovered the outstanding spot of the Razende Bol (little sandy island, complete deserted) and passing from there to the southpoint of Texel.




Arjan, try the clawfinger-grip handgloves from ION!

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Re: This winter in europe never seems to end.... [Re: northsea junkie] #258559
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I love what you guys to the english language! We native speakers make it so mundane often boring.


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Re: This winter in europe never seems to end.... [Re: Karl_Brogger] #258560
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Originally Posted by Karl_Brogger
Can't escape the sun though. We'll have similar temps and humidity up here, but mother F'er is that sun brutal down there.

Sailing doesn't help, the Gulf is 80+ degrees in the summer. The water is about as soothing as leaping backwards through my own assh0le.


I know you guys have a hard time with modern technology up there in the great northern wastelands - but down here we have invented this really effective tool - its called...

Shade.

Try it sometime :P

Re: This winter in europe never seems to end.... [Re: Karl_Brogger] #258561
03/26/13 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Karl_Brogger
Can't escape the sun though. We'll have similar temps and humidity up here, but mother F'er is that sun brutal down there.

Sailing doesn't help, the Gulf is 80+ degrees in the summer. The water is about as soothing as leaping backwards through my own assh0le.


Lived here all my life and can't wait to escape. Brogger is soooo spot on 6 months of stupid heat and insane humidity is nuts!


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Re: This winter in europe never seems to end.... [Re: David Ingram] #258562
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Originally Posted by David Ingram
Originally Posted by Karl_Brogger
Can't escape the sun though. We'll have similar temps and humidity up here, but mother F'er is that sun brutal down there.

Sailing doesn't help, the Gulf is 80+ degrees in the summer. The water is about as soothing as leaping backwards through my own assh0le.


Lived here all my life and can't wait to escape. Brogger is soooo spot on 6 months of stupid heat and insane humidity is nuts!


Grass, fence, greener.


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apply lots of sunscreen and lubricate internals ... what heat?
Originally Posted by Karl_Brogger
Can't escape the sun though. We'll have similar temps and humidity up here, but mother F'er is that sun brutal down there.

Sailing doesn't help, the Gulf is 80+ degrees in the summer. The water is about as soothing as leaping backwards through my own assh0le.

Re: This winter in europe never seems to end.... [Re: Jake] #258564
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Originally Posted by Jake

Grass, fence, greener.


Maybe. We'll see who is whining this weekend and who isn't.


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Re: This winter in europe never seems to end.... [Re: ThunderMuffin] #258566
03/26/13 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Undecided

Shade.

Try it sometime :P


If that don't work, they've got this cool thing in just about every structure here: air conditioning.

Seems at least once every summer the news down here broadcasts that several people up north have died from the heat in their homes. that has got to totally suck...

And God invented the summer in S FL for scuba diving or flying.

As one skydiver friend told me, "there are two places it's always cold in Florida: 5,000 feet ASL and -120 feet"

I regularly wear a full wetsuit to dive under 60 feet, where temps seem to average about 71 degrees F year round.

And I trust his comment on the 5,000 ASL thing. I was too busy crapping my pants to notice it was that cold at 17,000 + ASL


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Re: This winter in europe never seems to end.... [Re: northsea junkie] #258567
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16 Celsius, Bft 5, clear and sunny.


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Re: This winter in europe never seems to end.... [Re: waterbug_wpb] #258570
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Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb

If that don't work, they've got this cool thing in just about every structure here: air conditioning.

One of the advantages of Northern Europe, you can just open a window for that cool breeze to come in, no air-conditioning necessary!
(As long as that window is just above a radiator though, you don't want to freeze to death!).

Re: This winter in europe never seems to end.... [Re: northsea junkie] #258576
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So,

I started this topic with complaining about the winter and the cold in Holland and it all ended in whining and complaining about the hotness and humidity in Florida.

It was fun and I got rid off one or two stories and learned a lot.

Conclusion: the grass is always greener elswhere. There is no sailing paradise. Adam, our first man, definitly made the wrong choice.


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Re: This winter in europe never seems to end.... [Re: northsea junkie] #258578
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Adam had no choice, that game was totally rigged.

Picking up our Infusion in 18 days, and counting..

Re: This winter in europe never seems to end.... [Re: northsea junkie] #258582
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Originally Posted by northsea junkie
So,

I started this topic with complaining about the winter and the cold in Holland and it all ended in whining and complaining about the hotness and humidity in Florida.

It was fun and I got rid off one or two stories and learned a lot.

Conclusion: the grass is always greener elswhere. There is no sailing paradise. Adam, our first man, definitly made the wrong choice.



About 10 years ago I contemplated a career change and a move to Florida so I could sail more. I was one of the last two candidates for an engineering position with a natural gas company and having had a background in gas service engineering, I was a shoe-in. The company was a satellite office run out of Port Saint Lucie and I was expecting a plane ticket for a final interview. That ticket never showed up and my calls went unreturned. The parent company had apparently been busted on $30 million in consumer fraud and was shutting down satellite offices as it restructured. A couple of weeks later, a hurricane came ashore centered over the same area. I'm glad that interview process took as long as it did. Had all of this taken place two months earlier I probably would have just relocated, then lost my job, and had to run from a hurricane. That was the last time I considered moving to Florida.


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