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Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: P.M.] #262807
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Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: P.M.] #262808
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Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: P.M.] #262809
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Originally Posted by P.M.


It's just so easy to write some crap article like that on a blog. I could take some time to point out some of the glaring contradictions but I'll just stick with this one; he says LR should quit because of safety concerns and not because they won't win (even though the safety issues have been addressed...NZ just screwed up that rounding). He then goes on to justify this quitting maneuver because they have no chance to win. Tool.


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Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: P.M.] #262810
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Originally Posted by P.M.
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Originally Posted by P.M.
"to refrain from using drugs and other psychotropic substances as they run contrary to the law. Alcohol should be consumed only in designated areas and driving under the influence of alcohol is an offence, says the brochure."

pretty much excludes our Spring Fever type regatta's from taking place there. wink


Whadya mean? We only consume alcohol in a designated area... it's just a big area, Nigel's to the campground.

I was thinking more of the psychotropic abuse and the indecent behavior


Yeah, No help there... they've got us on that one.


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Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: Jake] #262811
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Originally Posted by Jake
Originally Posted by P.M.


It's just so easy to write some crap article like that on a blog. I could take some time to point out some of the glaring contradictions but I'll just stick with this one; he says LR should quit because of safety concerns and not because they won't win (even though the safety issues have been addressed...NZ just screwed up that rounding). He then goes on to justify this quitting maneuver because they have no chance to win. Tool.


I'd suspect Tom Fitzgerald is a tried and true loser with no fortitude ,whatsoever.Quit at everything he wasn't given. It'd be interesting to see his trophy case or lack thereof.


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Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: Team_Cat_Fever] #262817
08/23/13 06:55 AM
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kristin and I just got back from SF and a visit to the LV Cup on Wednesday. Emirates 2 easy wins.

It's pretty clear from being there (AC Village on the Green) that the team with the best start (and hence) to the 1st mark first will walk away from the other.

Having said that, it's an awesome site to see these boats foil shooting past the grandstand at 35k (in only a 14k breeze)!!

Met up with Annie Gardner and Eric Witte. Annie does the play-by-play at the Village on the Green viewing area. She does a great job and had a guest Olympic sailor Molly Vandemoer helping with the color.

Also saw a youth practice sail on the AC45's .... Mathew Whitehead is sailing on one of the USA Red Bull AC45's !!

Unfortunately, no siting of Oracle's Larry Ellison. I'm still waiting for a reply from him on sponsoring our lil ol' boats with ORACLE supplied spinny's. mad


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Artemis had way better starts the LR but this did not help them much.
Boat handling is the name of the game at this event. If you can gain 2-300 yards on 1 jibe, tactics and match racing techniques are not really needed. The enclosed course makes this even more so. Once you get ahead it is not a big deal to let the other team split beacuse they can only go a little way.

Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: Timbo] #262822
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Originally Posted by Timbo

As you can see, cross dressing is out, so Ding, you'll have to stay home. And for the rest of you guys, do NOT hold hands with your wife, or kiss her in public.


Don't ask Timbo how he learned those rules:
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Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: bacho] #262823
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Originally Posted by bacho
Anyone else think those space suits make the LR guys look like they are on a bad movie set?

[Linked Image]


+1 Someone soooo needs to photoshop Godzilla in the background


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Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: P.M.] #262831
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Race 6 today... no? Yes?


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Same deal. ESPN3 and virtual eye. Luna Rossa enters the pre-start on port tack today for Race 6 of the Louis Vuitton Cup Final. Today’s race is scheduled to begin at 1310 and can be viewed live in the U.S. on ESPN3, beginning at 1300. Internationally, the racing will be broadcast live on the America’s Cup YouTube channel, subject to territorial restrictions. The full race replay will be available on YouTube shortly after the conclusion of live racing.

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What are they planning for NBC Sports (old Versus)? My wife thinks she saw "Yachting" as a program title the other day, which is what they've used in the past for this type of stuff.

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Today is a makeup day, hence ESPN3. Regular schedule will be NBCSN.


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Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: P.M.] #262840
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NZ 5-1. Luna Rossa tentative pre-start, got rolled again and the rest was same old, same old.

Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: hobiephil] #262841
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John Bertrand posits that the next two weeks are keys for Emirates and Oracle. Who finds more speed in this period since nobody has plateaued yet?

My question is.. Do you really think they are still finding speed? Versus just sailing the boat perfectly 100% of the time.


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You saw what dropping down off the foils for just a couple seconds did to LR yesterday. That's all it takes.

They may still be 'finding speed' but as mentioned earlier, I think the team that is most consistant will be the team ahead. Since ETNZ has now had some real racing practice, under real pressure, I think they'll be more consistant with their boat handling in the finals.

Has anyone been able to 'spy' on Oracle, see what kind of speeds they are doing, upwind and down? And how many perfect foil to foil gybes have they been able to pull off?

And Jay, I wish you would stop following me around with a camera when I go to the beach!


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