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Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: P.M.] #265186
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Trophy presentation at 3PM (40 mins from now).

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Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: P.M.] #265187
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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/25/s...ash-for-americas-cup.html?pagewanted=all

There's also a bright red link about the AC on Drudge which just happens to be the largest link referrer on the web for news sites (regardless of what you think of the site itself)

Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: Carl] #265188
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Originally Posted by Carl
BOWS ? foils .Surface foiling upwind and full foiling down .

Amazing racing -catamaran sailors all over the globe must be as excited about the sport and future racing as we seem to be here .

C ClASS cats are next up .

Jobson and co are talking about how they want to make future races more affordable and get perhaps as many as 15 teams competing for the next cup .



In that interview with Geno Morelli a few days ago, he said in the future they should ditch the hard wing (too expensive, too many shore crew needed to handle it), and go with a smaller platform. I said back when they were racing the AC 45's, they should just stick with those, if they really want 15 teams to show up, and now that they know how to foil, they should make the AC 45's into foilers, soft sails, fix the rudders so they can trim the boats on the foils easier, etc.

BUT...as I said a few days ago, if you do get 15 teams to show up, as the Defender, you stand that much more of a chance of Losing the Cup!

So even though they say they want more teams in it, I'm not sure Larry is willing to risk losing the cup to have a more affordable boat, that will allow more teams to show up and be competitive. All that would do is increase his chances of losing it. Heck, he nearly lost it this time, and he nearly priced every other team out of it.



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Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: P.M.] #265189
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Here's the best thing about this cup. A transcript of me and my coworker's Gchat:

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wbb 1 hr

3:56 PM
Thaddeus

Dave
Me too:-)
Dave • 4:00 PM

Dave
I want to take a nap but I can't stop watching, this is awesome!
Dave • 4:32 PM

Dave
Impressive win!!!!
Dave • 9 mins

****ing hell I barfed before the race I was so nervous
8 mins
Thaddeus

Dave
seriously
Dave • 8 mins

Jimmy was ****ing tailgating ETNZ the entire downwind leg
if something broke on ETNZ during that... people would have died.
6 mins
Thaddeus

Dave
the whole thing was so intense, it took my mind off of how bad I feel now the benedryl & sudafed are kicked in, I need to nap, my head is poiunding.
Dave • 5 mins

Thats awesome
5 mins
Thaddeus

Dave
great race!!!!
Dave • 5 mins

I'm glad you enjoyed it
5 mins
Thaddeus

Dave
I'm hooked
will be following it from now on
Dave • 5 mins


this cup was meant to appeal to people like you who enjoy auto racing
4 mins
Thaddeus

Dave
it did!!!
Dave • 4 mins

its meant to show that we sailors aren't stuffed shirt types named buffy
4 mins
Thaddeus

Dave
LOL
Dave •

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Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: P.M.] #265190
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Yeah that was some downwind run! Amazing how close they were the entire way down that leg!! At one point I was sure Jimmy was going to ram ETNZ from behind!

At least Jimmy's Wife is an American, I feel a little better now!


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Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: P.M.] #265191
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For the movie, I would like to see Jeff Daniels play the part of Larry Ellison, and Jim Carrey playing Spithill. Of course, Dean Barker's part will be played by David Bowie.


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Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: P.M.] #265192
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"Ground control to major Dean..."


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Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: Timbo] #265193
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Yeah that was some downwind run! Amazing how close they were the entire way down that leg!! At one point I was sure Jimmy was going to ram ETNZ from behind!


This is my favorite part of the race. Less than a boat lenght away going 40 kts right on his a$$. How ya doing Dean?... Well the pass was cool too.


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Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: P.M.] #265194
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Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: P.M.] #265195
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Cup Presentation Live in less than 5 minutes.


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Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: P.M.] #265196
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Cool to see AC comments where you didnt expect them, like this series of (geek) tweets grin
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Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: P.M.] #265197
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JS said in an interview about three weeks ago that foiling up wind would play a big part in the races. Did not seem like it would be until the end. Do you think they were holding back?


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Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: catman] #265198
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Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: catman] #265199
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Originally Posted by catman
JS said in an interview about three weeks ago that foiling up wind would play a big part in the races. Did not seem like it would be until the end. Do you think they were holding back?


I doubt they were holding back, I think they just had to learn how to do it!

Oracle definitely got much faster going upwind through the last 8 races. If you remember, leg 3 was their weakness when ETNZ was kicking their butt. Somehow they figured out how to: 1. make the boat go faster upwind and 2. get to the favored side of the course and protect it going upwind.


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Dean Barker clearly broken. He's a class act.


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Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: P.M.] #265201
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I'm sensing some brutal hangovers tomorrow morning on both sides.


I'm boatless.
Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: P.M.] #265202
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He's definitely a class act. Part of me feels bad for him. If they had not been so darn hell bent on going back to the old way of doing the AC I could have rooted for them.

I don't think I could ever root for GD though. Other than being an inspiration to us aging guys, he's difficult to stomach.


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Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: P.M.] #265204
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The Indians won it! The Indians won it! Oh my God, the Indians won it!!!

Nice job, boys.

Mike

Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: P.M.] #265205
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Did anyone see Russell Coutts?
Just weird that we did not see or hear from him at all.

Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: P.M.] #265206
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Reported in the Associated Press. That should make it official.
Oracle beats New Zealand to keep America's Cup


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