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Re: NACRA 17 makes news down under [Re: Tom Korz] #268460
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TK and all,

I have never been to the rudder club, but I can vouch for the scattered and diverse launching arenas in Coconut Grove - not much land/parking space along the shoreline. On the other side of the yacht club there are barrier islands with narrow, shallow, channels. This shallow bottom extends well out into Biscayne Bay. I remember it was quite a hike from the slip to the Laser Course and the houses still remaining, on posts, in the middle of the bay, south of Fowley Rock.

The days are shorter, the distance to the designated race tracks is long, and the traffic is immense, considering all the coach boats. Set up and return to the harbor take a bit more bite out of the sunshine. Equipment care also drains the time.

Now, maybe the women match racers should be on cats - they race from sunup until sundown in their little corner of Biscayne Bay. One lady I met in the elevator, told me they had been doing that for over a month. I guarantee you, she knew where the laundry center was in the Marriott.


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Re: NACRA 17 makes news down under [Re: catandahalf] #268461
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The womens match racers sail in a round robin, their round is assigned to a part of the day they will sail during. During the final rounds they will be around more of the day as they advance through the finals. They also rotate in and out of boats. So they aren't sailing all day.
Some of the women's teams will be at Sandbar pretty late if they aren't sailing in the morning.
That and there is no womens match racing anymore.

Re: NACRA 17 makes news down under [Re: wildtsail7] #268462
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Originally Posted by wildtsail7

Some of the women's teams will be at Sandbar pretty late if they aren't sailing in the morning.



soooooo....waddaya sayin'?


Jay

Re: NACRA 17 makes news down under [Re: wildtsail7] #268464
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...just returned from the Gulf Yachting Association's AGM, and there, I learned of the reorganization committee and read their survey with emphasis on the Mallory and the Adams. I believe one of them is being modified or deep - sixed, so I am not surprised about the loss of WMR.

I know a TV minded audience will not enjoy the hours of a match racing format. Now a N 17 doing a wheelie or auto-gybing would create colorful drama that sells the sport to the action-oriented audience. A three boat pile up at the leeward gate in force five could attract a NASCAR audience.

Viewing a sailboat race has a rather recent history in the technological wonderworld. Modern devices and software have enhanced the opportunity to share the excitement of sailing to the public.

I told a couple past yc commodores that we may not have the history and traditions of the past, but we sure have an exciting future.

Multihulls will prosper, not just because of the AC on home screens, but more and more talent is pushing out the performance envelope or enjoying a competitive class association. Inter disciplinary sailing is more popular now than ever in the middle - age range of sincere athletes.

I will try and submit some video and photos from the weather mark. I am sure the regatta media coverage will be quite up to speed. The special Medal Racing event on Saturday will include the N 17, and if I am asked to serve on safety patrol, I'll try and share that as well.




Re: NACRA 17 makes news down under [Re: catandahalf] #268466
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Unless the coverage is equal to that of the America's Cup it's still like watching paint dry, and difficult to follow what is going on to the average person. jmo


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It's a shame they got rid of WMR, it was an awesome format to watch on tv/streaming. The finals of the WMR worlds that Anna won was one of the best sailing events I have watched, truly awesome sailing.

As for the venues for OCR, the rowing club is actually a pretty great spot. Not much in the way of facilities, but launching wise it is ideal. Kind of a bummer being so far away from the regatta headquarters, but that is the reality of hosting such a big event in Miami.


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Re: NACRA 17 makes news down under [Re: catandahalf] #268468
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really nice article in sail world today interviewing nina and bundy. damn those guys put some work into their sailing.

link to article

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Re: NACRA 17 makes news down under [Re: Dazz] #268469
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I would like to add a Bundy quote from the really informative piece in Sail-World.

"Bundock puts a dampener on this notion. 'We have had the Nacra 17 fully foiling. In fact we did it downwind, on the first weekend we had here for training. We were completely out of the water for about five seconds, with about 30cms of rudder in the water. But this Olympics, the Nacra won’t fully foil, unless you put some lifting rudders on the boat."

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I thought that was a well-known limitation (and necessary required to make foiling happen in a practical sense)?

The real question: Other than from the fans and (some of?) the sailors, is there a desire to have a foiling boat in the Olympics?

Mike

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Originally Posted by catandahalf
Modern devices and software have enhanced the opportunity to share the excitement of sailing to the public


It's downright PALPABLE


Jay

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Re: NACRA 17 makes news down under [Re: brucat] #268588
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Originally Posted by brucat
I thought that was a well-known limitation (and necessary required to make foiling happen in a practical sense)?

The real question: Other than from the fans and (some of?) the sailors, is there a desire to have a foiling boat in the Olympics?

Mike


Interestingly I spoke to Nacra just before christmas about wether the upcoming F20 foiling kit would be adaptable to suit the 17. The response was "could be".......!!

Re: NACRA 17 makes news down under [Re: Jeff.Dusek] #268770
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The N 17s will be racing on course, "Charlie," the outer most race track. Long haul for the teams...and very difficult to view from shore.

Find a friend with a power boat and cheer your favorites on.

John Craig is giving a presentation on the AC as we speak.

Fairlie and I are headed to CRYC in the AM. Meanwhile, Matt, best to ya in the land down under, and may the Hobie Worlds enjoy warmer weather than we expect in Miami.

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