| |  Learning NEW tricks ; don't be afraid ! #278673
04/29/15 07:16 PM 04/29/15 07:16 PM |
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| Just because you are a bit skeptical, about doing something that seams a bit unnerving to Ya ; don't think you can't or won't ever change your mind about the subject. You might even have some FUN ; after riding yourself of the initial anxiety. If you read the last quote , you will find that This Guy did : From Reefer Madness : Getting rid of the jib is Fast ; just as fast as deploying it, with a furling mechanism ! my furler is not easy to use in heavy air and more often than not does not furl the sail well ( creates a terrible hourglass shape that is flogging like crazy) One persons fun is another persons nightmare. page 5
my furler is not easy to use in heavy air and more often than not does not furl the sail well ( creates a terrible hourglass shape that is flogging like crazy)
One persons fun is another persons nightmare.
Then FIX it , and it Will be Fun ! What can i say ; go in Big-Wind, with crappy equipment, (what do Ya expect) ? I use new harken furlers (top and bottom) with the highload turlon bearings. - nothing to fix, not crap equipment I sail solo 80% of the time so having the luxury of holding the tiller and trying to furl a jib on the fly in 30knots is not just a case of "fix it" I have sailed in over 40. not my idea of fun. Even over 20 is more than i prefer (but get caught in 25's several times a year). I think knowing how to depower and get back to the beach safe is much more "fun" than being out in heavy air, getting a face full of water and increasing my risk of breaking a boat or person. I have jumped on many other boats in high wind, but i find that less and less appealing as i get older. Well, you can always heave-to! IF I wanted to sail in heavy air I would heave-to if/as needed, but since i prefer not to sail in heavy air.... and IF i sailed in heavy air, i wouldn't have a jib out page 6 OK -- then you need to get the pressure off your sails. Or just don't go out in heavy air For you being caught in a 25 , "several times a year" as you
say, ; i would Drop the Main completely, and sail your joy back to safe harbor , with just the jib. So your suggesting when a storm pops up i try and drop and secure my main on my catamaran while on the fly? I don't think that is the answer for me. I can sail my cat in 25 - 30 without doing that. Have you ever sailed with just your jib ? Yes I wouldn't sail Mohave , without a Good plan to deal with the
15 to 30-mph winds that are normal on that lake. We get a nice 15
to start ; then it's ON. It will fluctuate like that,as many
as 3 to 5 times a day. Here in the Central Fl / Gulf of Mexico we get all ranges of weather. It's typical for the summer days to start out light, build all day and then have late afternoon thunderstorms (although this year has been atypical) - we have plans/options. You seem to be trying very hard to convince me that sailing in heavy air is the most fun and I should be doing it. I am spoiled and get to sail year round, 3 days a week .... I have learned what i find fun and what i don't.... and sailing in heavy air / rough seas is not fun to me.... YMMV page 8 What i AM saying, is that knowing what to do in stronger wind is a good back-up plan. ~ i agree page 9 can you sail upwind jib only?
I have sailed home from camping jib only down wind but i haven't seen anyone able to make any real ground upwind - jib only. =============================================================== And now , after ALL that fighting ; i finally get my point across. well 2 months later and i purchased a 6.0 that was rebuilt with a reefing main
last week i sailed it solo in 20-25 mph, reefed and it was a blast
handled very well, no excessive weatherhelm nor deadly leehelm
The how:
sail is lowered off the hook at the head of mast and the ring is is lowered about 4' (size of bottom sail panel).
There is a very large spin lock in the base of the mast track to lock the main halyard (that is now off the hook)
reef points in the luff (new downhaul), and across the sail and leach (new clew)
another slug in the masttrack at the bottom of new foot
the sail has 2 reef patches sewn into so line/bungee can be used to roll up extra sail - which lays on the side of boom And to answer the question, if a cat can go up-wind with jib only ? Give me a Hobie 20 , with stock jib and 30-mph wind ; and i will show you it can indeed go up-wind , and also do a full tack into the wind. The jib will need to be in Good shape. Bille
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South Carolina | Umm...Bille...this is a little overboard, buddy.
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Greenville SC | Umm...Bille...this is a little overboard, buddy. Quoted for truth | | | Re: Learning NEW tricks ; don't be afraid !
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Northfield Mn | Umm...Bille...this is a little overboard, buddy. Quoted for truth Second that motion
I'm boatless.
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Clermont, FL, USA | If you guys run off the broken toys this site will become a ghost town. Please don't leave me with the idiots in the political thread.
David Ingram F18 USA 242 http://www.solarwind.solar"Do or do not. There is no try." - Yoda "Excuses are the tools of the weak and incompetent" - Two sista's I overheard in the hall "You don't have to be a brain surgeon to be a complete idiot, but it helps"
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South Carolina | If you guys run off the broken toys this site will become a ghost town. Please don't leave me with the idiots in the political thread. lol...problem is that the broken toys are going to run off everyone else that's still left as well. There is a happy medium somewhere.
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Naples, FL | I thought he was channeling the ghost of Wouter...
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Clermont, FL, USA | If you guys run off the broken toys this site will become a ghost town. Please don't leave me with the idiots in the political thread. lol...problem is that the broken toys are going to run off everyone else that's still left as well. There is a happy medium somewhere. I don't think the "normals" get run off they enjoy watching a good train wreck right along with the rest of us they are just smart enough to stay on the sidelines :-)
David Ingram F18 USA 242 http://www.solarwind.solar"Do or do not. There is no try." - Yoda "Excuses are the tools of the weak and incompetent" - Two sista's I overheard in the hall "You don't have to be a brain surgeon to be a complete idiot, but it helps"
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Naples, FL | probably was that f*n "Drill" thread...
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42.904444 N; 88.008586 W | If you guys run off the broken toys this site will become a ghost town. Please don't leave me with the idiots in the political thread. Hey, watch it I resemble that remark!
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| If you guys run off the broken toys this site will become a ghost town. Please don't leave me with the idiots in the political thread. Hey, watch it I resemble that remark! I resemble that remark Also ; but if i got mad at someone on this forum "I wouldn't go to some other forum , or social media , then bad-mouth him over there , just to try and discredit him" like MN3 ((Tried)) to do to Me !! I thought it was a Pansy butt move , on his part ; and told me a Lot about his personality. I am simply NOT like that (.) Anyway -- i just got back from a week long trip of flying my hang glider , and there isn't anyone or anything, that could get me out of this Good Mood !! Tomorrow i go sail a Cat, at Lake Mohave ; and it's gonna blow Hard , like ( 25 to 33 ) and i seriously doubt if i'll see MN3 there . I know i have a bit more of a Need for adrenaline , than most of you on this forum ; but i don't cut down the guys that are a bit more passive than me. I will try and show, how having a back-up plan for when things go Bad ; is Always a Good thing. Bille | | |
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