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Re: Condor help [Re: Dermot] #31312
03/20/04 10:03 PM
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Pensacola, FL
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My Condor has a plate on the port hull that says Zygal Boat's in Whitestable so I've always assumed that was the company that built my Condor.

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Re: Condor help [Re: Sycho15] #31313
03/20/04 10:07 PM
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Pensacola, FL
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Scale it down to 14' and change to dagger-boards, toss 300 sq. ft. of sail on it and race in the F14 class
Just one question...why daggerboards? Ever tried to lift up two daggerboards when coming towards the beach on a nice beam reach? I'll keep the centerboard layout thank you very much.

Re: Condor help [Re: BrianH64] #31314
03/21/04 08:25 PM
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Bradenton, FL
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Scale it down to 14' and change to dagger-boards, toss 300 sq. ft. of sail on it and race in the F14 class
Just one question...why daggerboards? Ever tried to lift up two daggerboards when coming towards the beach on a nice beam reach? I'll keep the centerboard layout thank you very much.


If it's for home-building, a dagger-board case would be much easier to do. Also, if you're coming in to shore on a beam reach you should let the main out to take pressure off the boards and slow the boat before slamming into the beach.
Centerboards don't rotate all that well on a beam reach either. I've crewed on my friends P18-2 and we were double-trapped and flying through waves and hit a sandbar with the leeward board. It didn't rotate up at all, just lost a small chunck off the tip.


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Re: Condor help [Re: Sycho15] #31315
03/21/04 09:23 PM
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I never had a problem with mine rotating when coming ashore no matter what the speed. The big pain with my Condor was the rudder design. They were not of a kickup design, you had to reach down and pull a T handle on each one to get them to unlock. As far as flying into shore, I did mean that as a joke. I do recall (going to give my age away a bit) seeing a Sizzler coming in and neither rudder kicked up then the boat came to a screeching halt on the beach with one guy in the trap. Let's just say it was breezy that day and the guy in the trap got to go flying when the boat tipped on it's side. For those of you too young to know what a Sizzler was it was an all aluminum cat that to me had to be about as ugly as an Aqua Cat.

Re: Condor help [Re: BrianH64] #31316
03/22/04 04:29 AM
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I saw a Condor loose both its transoms when he hit a sandbank !


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Re: Condor help [Re: BrianH64] #31317
03/22/04 05:18 PM
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As far as flying into shore, I did mean that as a joke.


That's really quite funny, as I tend to fly my G-Cat into shore when there's a nice crowd nearby. Those deep-V hulls dig right in and send my flying on the trapeze. I've got a neat little dismount that sends me right up to the bow so I can start dragging the bow into the wind. However, my G-Cat doesn't have 'boards

Earlier in the same day as I mentioned in my previous post, we had both boards up on a broad reach coming into shore. We surfed the P18-2 on a nice little 3' wave into the shore and slid so far up the beach that we were out of the wet sand. A couple guys surfing a kayak gave us a little cheer

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I do recall (going to give my age away a bit) seeing a Sizzler coming in and neither rudder kicked up then the boat came to a screeching halt on the beach with one guy in the trap. Let's just say it was breezy that day and the guy in the trap got to go flying when the boat tipped on it's side. For those of you too young to know what a Sizzler was it was an all aluminum cat that to me had to be about as ugly as an Aqua Cat.


Hans Geissler was talking to me about Sizzlers. He said that is where some of the inspiration for the G-Cat design came from (he used to sell Sizzlers). I remember the red one from Jaws, but that's about it....


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Re: Condor help [Re: BrianH64] #31318
03/22/04 05:27 PM
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Memphis, Tennessee
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As far as flying into shore, I did mean that as a joke.


Reminded me of this picture


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Consult a vet [Re: Damon Linkous] #31319
03/22/04 09:03 PM
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Daytona Beach FL
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I thought condor's were all but extinct. Beautiful birds though... If you are having trouble with your's, I think you'ld be better off taking it to see a vet, instead of posting here. These guys will tell you everything will be ok after a bottle of rum. In fact, they might try and convince you to feed the bird rum as well. In any case, YRMV.


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Re: Condor help [Re: BrianH64] #31320
04/01/04 04:37 PM
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Andover, CT, USA
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Brian I have recently joined this chat room and read your questions regarding the Condor. I have a sailing buddy that owns a reg white 1986 one. He has a wealth of knowledge and experience with this boat(it is his second one). Would you like him to contact you? Randy darter159@aol.com

Condor on E-Bay [Re: darter159] #31321
04/11/04 08:53 PM
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Here's the deal...

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Re: Condor help [Re: darter159] #31322
05/04/04 07:43 PM
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Pensacola, FL
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Darter you've got mail. I have tried to contact several people in the UK regarding info and not had much success. I last emailed a chap at Sailspar but never heard back from him. The boat still is in my back yard in pieces BUT I can report that the Hobie 14 Turbo I aquired is coming together nicely if I can just find a new jib for it and get the main reparied.

Re: Condor help [Re: Dermot] #31323
06/30/04 10:57 PM
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Pensacola, FL
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Dermont still not having any luck on the spars and other pieces. I never did hear from anybody at Sailspar.

Re: Condor help [Re: BrianH64] #31324
07/01/04 02:31 AM
07/01/04 02:31 AM
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Try Andy Web in the UK :

awsailboats (at) rya-online.net

he should be able to help


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Re: Condor help [Re: BrianH64] #31325
07/02/04 08:06 PM
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Dublin, Ireland
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Sorry to hear that Brian.
Sailspar are the people who originally made the spars for the Condor, so they are the ones to contact. They told me that they would deal with you.
Sailspar Ltd
Phone 01206 302679
Fax 01206 303796
www.sailspar.co.uk

As Simon says, Andy Webb (contact me via this forum and I can possibly get you his contact info) certainly knows the Condor and also deals with David Beech in Sailspar. Andy is currently building new Shearwaters (a design older than the Condor), maybe he might take on the Condor as well.

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Re: Condor help [Re: Dermot] #31326
07/05/04 02:20 AM
07/05/04 02:20 AM
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Dermott, I would not put e-mail addresses into public forum posts, the web crawler software WILL Pick it up and snow the account with Junk. I'd suggest you ask Rick to edit it out.

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Re: Condor help [Re: scooby_simon] #31327
07/05/04 08:42 AM
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Dublin, Ireland
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Thanks Simon, I have done that.
I wasn't thinking, I hadn't been on the forum for a week, saw Brian's message and just sent off a quick reply.
Dermot.


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