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Hull taking on water #36383
08/04/04 03:54 PM
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What is the best/easiest way to find a hole or spot where water could be coming in ?

Thanks

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Re: Hull taking on water [Re: palmwolfe] #36384
08/04/04 05:27 PM
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blow air into the hull, taking a shop-vac on revers, or air compressor, or something else and taping it to the drain plug. Then you can take soapy water in a spray bottle and spray the hull. Everywhere that the air you are blowing into the hull is escaping, the soapy water will make bubbles and you can see it.


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Re: Hull taking on water [Re: jfint] #36385
08/04/04 05:30 PM
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Woa, there! Too much pressure can damage the hull from the inside!! Either have someone blow w/ a straw, or just get the vacuum near to the hole to slightly pressurize the inside.

Kevin
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Re: Hull taking on water [Re: papayamon2] #36386
08/04/04 09:06 PM
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Right on Kevin!
A "one psi, 1.0 psi", increase in inside hull pressure is a force of 2400 pounds trying to blow the deck off the hull on a 20ft hull. Example: 20ft x 12ins/ft x 10ins average deck width x 1.0 psid = 2400 pounds. That is 1.2 tons!
Be very, very careful.
Bill

Re: Hull taking on water [Re: BRoberts] #36387
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Re: Hull taking on water [Re: jfint] #36388
08/05/04 06:59 AM
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South Florida & the Keys
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Kevin,
I used a shop vac as you suggested but I had to make sure that the hose was properly vented to eliminate any back pressure. Hulls are not intended to have "any" pressure exerted from the inside out. I jury rigged the hose to an old hatch cover and drilled several holes in the cover for vents. It worked, I think. See the attached pic.

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Re: Hull taking on water [Re: arbo06] #36389
08/05/04 07:36 AM
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At least your sense of humour is fine!


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Re: Hull taking on water [Re: Jake] #36390
08/05/04 07:46 AM
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It's all I got right now. I have two modes, laughin' and cryin'.


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Re: Hull taking on water [Re: palmwolfe] #36391
08/05/04 07:49 AM
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What kind of boat???

thom

Re: Hull taking on water [Re: thom] #36392
08/05/04 08:26 AM
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I used a hair dryer on low with the drains open to vent out. It provided plenty pressure to do the soapy water test and didn't damage the hulls...Dan

Re: Hull taking on water [Re: arbo06] #36393
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Arbo,

At least it seems like your method found the leak!


Jake Kohl
Re: Hull taking on water [Re: thom] #36394
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Thom,

Was a H-20, now it's a H-10.

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Re: Hull taking on water [Re: arbo06] #36395
08/05/04 10:06 AM
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Long Beach, California
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Eric -

I'm sure I don't need to tell you that those pieces and parts make great fleet trophies... don't chuck 'em. Some of the coolest awards I've seen were pieces of once-useful booms, masts and rudders. I've been trying to find a dagger board to use in building the tongue-in-cheek Mystere 4.3 Nationals trophy. Every time Kirk gets one in the shop, though, he fixes it and sells it!


John Williams

- The harder you practice, the luckier you get -
Gary Player, pro golfer

After watching Lionel Messi play, I realize I need to sail harder.
Re: Hull taking on water [Re: John Williams] #36396
08/05/04 11:18 AM
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Palm Beach Gardens. FL
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Thanks for all the ideas and laughs, I will try the small shop vac and let you know what I find. The boat is a 1985 P18 and has always been pretty dry.
Thanks again


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