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F-18HT Website #4908
12/20/01 09:52 PM
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I have published the temporary F-18HT website at http://18HTclass.com. Please understand that it is under construction! The initial draft of the class rules, a forum, and photos (more to come) can be found on the site. The webmaster will be on duty after the first of the year!

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Re: F-18HT Website [Re: wfo3] #4909
12/21/01 08:49 AM
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Nice work!



Merry XMas wishing from Switzerland!


Andi, Switzerland
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Please enter the info in our Search Engine - FREE! [Re: wfo3] #4910
12/21/01 09:54 AM
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Hi WF,

It would be nice to enter the info. It is a FREE service and puts all the info in our huge SQL database for fast recall.

Any club, association, business or whatever is also welcome to do so.

On our welcome page, just click on Search Engine, and then click on Suggest a Site and fill in the blanks.

It may take a day or two to show up since I have to approve all entries.

Thanks,

Rick

Re: F-18HT Website [Re: wfo3] #4911
12/21/01 10:47 AM
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Is there a need for yet another class?

Re: F-18HT Website [Re: rhodysail] #4912
12/21/01 12:44 PM
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No, but there is a need for new boats with new ideas.

Re: F-18HT Website [Re: CBrown] #4913
12/21/01 02:47 PM
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Hi Chris



I think that the supporting the HT class is a great idea. Since we don't have an active f18 fleet now. The timing is correct to give sailors a real choice. However, building a class is not as easy as it sounds. I think more thought should be given to a couple of issues.



Is the HT rule constraining enough so that all of the boatyards will build boats that are more or less the same in performance? What other boat yards will be producing 18 Ht's to the rule.



The F18 class has proven this point. If the boats are unequal in performance then the formulae rule is lost and you will be racing one design or open class in the end (see old formula 20 rule). Not a bad thing mind you.. It just wiil be hard to generate a large number of boats.



What kind of crew weight range will be competitive?



The F18 class has 2 jibs and 2 spn sizes to extend the competive weight range from 260 to 350 lbs. This has great appeal to racers.



How much appeal will a class have if the competitive weight range proves to be only 10 kg? or 20 to 25 lbs (see Bill Roberts points on light weight boats with respect to crew weight)

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WF has made the argument to me that you can build a mast and sail that will compensate. This system has only been shown to work for A class. I haven't heard anyone say ... Oh Yeah... no problem. 2 man team... we can sell you this proven mast and sail combo if you race at 360... and this proven mast and sail if you race at 300.



The HT class has many more aspects of a developmental class then it does off a formula class then US Sailors and Euro sailors are used to. (I would point to the problems that the CFR 20 team has had in generating a faster lightweight boat.)



Finally, Will the serious racers compete in the class frequently?



The Formula 18 class is helped enormously by Olympic and Pro sailors like Mitch Booth racing in the class at prestigous events. The reality is that people will follow the big dogs'. They want to take their measure against a Randy Smyth or Johnny Lovel and Charlie Olgetree.



Best of luck, I certainly hope that the HT rule works out as well as the f18 rule has.



Take Care

Mark





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Re: F-18HT Website [Re: Mark Schneider] #4914
12/22/01 06:29 PM
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Mark,

I found an artical at sailnet talking about A cats. I would guess that the HT will be similar in performance.



"Also an iceboating fanatic, Hall likens the performance of A-Class cats to sailing DN Iceboats. "These boats are so refined and efficient, I mean they're really like a sailing machine….You can do the wild thing and fly a hull downwind, which is a lot like sailing iceboats." But perhaps the best thing about these craft, says Hall, is that they accommodate a broad range of sailors. He likes to point out that at the world championships in Italy—where the conditions ranged from six to 20 knots—the age span among the top 20 finishers ran from 21 to 57 and their weights ranged from 145 to 205 pounds. "I don't think there's any other class where—at the world level—you could come close to saying that."





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