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Waxing #59294
10/17/05 11:50 PM
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ArizonaCatSailor Offline OP
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Please confirm that waxing the hulls is for storage only. Waxing the hulls does not improve boat speed. The best condition for boat speed is a smoothe, clean and unwaxed hull.

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Re: Waxing [Re: ArizonaCatSailor] #59295
10/18/05 06:08 AM
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I am not sure if that is true, unless it is Brasilian wax. Brasilian wax is a whole nother animal when applied to a cat.


Eric Arbogast
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Re: Waxing [Re: arbo06] #59296
10/18/05 06:53 AM
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The MOST important thing is to make sure you are not running low on blinker fluid and that your canuzer valve is functioning properly!

Seriously though...please don't start this again.


Jake Kohl
Re: Waxing [Re: Jake] #59297
10/18/05 07:16 AM
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Awww come on Jake, It's already been three weeks.

All I'm going to do is this. Said recently by Mary. Second paragraph, last sentence.

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This may be a tangent from the topic, but while all you experts are here.....does anybody know what product would be best to put on the rotomolded plastic boats like the Wave and the Getaway to make them shiny and to repel road tar and generally make them easier to wash. Oxidation does not seem to be a problem with the material used for these boats; and sanding is not an option.

Would products like Vertglas or 303 work on plastic, even though there aren't any pores to seal? Rick says wax might work, but the boat would be slower.

Anybody have any ideas? I want my Wave to be shiny! Or at least clean.


Now....argue with that


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Re: Waxing [Re: ArizonaCatSailor] #59298
10/18/05 12:19 PM
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>Please confirm that waxing the hulls is for storage only. Waxing the hulls does not improve boat speed. The best condition for boat speed is a smoothe, clean and unwaxed hull. <

I found wet sanded with 600 grit was the fastest but only lasted one or two races, because it would pick up crud.
Then I went to polished, and it would last one or two days until it picked up dirt, oil, grime, etc. from the sea.
I was never into cleaning the hulls every day. I ended up going with teflon polish, though it wasn't the fastest,
it had the best longevity over a week long regatta for an overall average, by keeping the grime off.
This was mostly gaged by how often I got clear air off the starting line, and butt dyno.
There may be something even better than Teflon by now to keep the film off.

Re: Waxing [Re: ArizonaCatSailor] #59299
10/18/05 01:07 PM
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You're right, Jake:

I'm done with this thread and the waxing. Our two cats have been flipped over in the backyard waiting for sixty degree weather so we can use the Vertglass system that's sitting in my garage. I just checked the weather and we have a chance of rain every day for the next week, normal for this time of year in NY.

We don't expect anything near seventy degrees until the end of next April, so we may as well put them in storage now and focus on the kayaking and upcoming ski season (feels like it's going to be in three weeks).

We've closed up our sailing container on the beach and winterized the tractor and the outboard motor with a beach party (very cold, I might add) last Saturday. We're done.

Wyatt

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How is everyone with "Galvanic corrosion"















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Re: Waxing [Re: wyatt] #59301
10/18/05 02:22 PM
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Anybody want to buy all my wax? I'm converted (thank you Jake very much) to an ALL VERTGLAS, ALL THE TIME kind of guy. I'm going around looking for stuff to put it on.
As for the season being over ....... Still hoping for one more sail before it goes away for the winter. 40 miles away from here, on the top of Mt Washington, they have 1 1/2 feet of...snow. This is when I get jealous of you guys down south and especially Bruce in St. Croix. You folks can keep the hurricanes but I'd swap the rest with you in a heartbeat. Seems like I just took all the summer stuff out of storage and now I have a weekend of puttin' away to do.

Greg


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Re: Waxing [Re: bullswan] #59302
10/18/05 05:52 PM
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This is when I get jealous of you guys down south and especially Bruce in St. Croix. You folks can keep the hurricanes but I'd swap the rest with you in a heartbeat. Seems like I just took all the summer stuff out of storage and now I have a weekend of puttin' away to do.


Saturday high about 88 low 69 degrees. Water temp 85.
Look at the bright side, your boats are LOW mileage.

Just one thing more about waxing. Like a lot of you I've tried just about every wax out there. Except for one none of them last on a car let alone a boat thats in the water alot. The only wax I really like and in my opinion lasts the longest is called Liquid Glass.


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Re: Waxing [Re: catman] #59303
10/18/05 08:22 PM
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OK so, back to the Brasilian Wax, it is certainly more interesting than carnuba and teflon.

Anyone got any pics?


Eric Arbogast
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Re: Waxing [Re: arbo06] #59304
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I dunno, Gary might :P

Re: Waxing [Re: arbo06] #59305
10/19/05 05:43 AM
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I agree. Brazilian wax... it's the only way to ride your cat..

Brazilian wax? [Re: Ken_H] #59306
10/19/05 07:32 AM
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If you're naive (like me) and don't know about it, do your own Google search on Brazilian wax. You will NOT find a carnuba replacement.

Catman said, "Like a lot of you I've tried just about every wax out there..."
Did you try a Brazilian wax, Mike? Did it make you sail faster? Yeouch!

Re: Brazilian wax? [Re: David Parker] #59307
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If you're naive (like me) and don't know about it, do your own Google search on Brazilian wax. You will NOT find a carnuba replacement.


Dave I didn't realize how naive you are. I'll have to be more careful when I send you jokes.

I guess the main thing is you learned something new today.


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Vertglas [Re: ArizonaCatSailor] #59308
10/21/05 04:38 AM
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Jake:

I don't care if it's fast or not. I just put Vertglass on a blue 1987 Hobie 16 and a white 1990 Hobie 18m and I'm impressed! The temperatures almost reached sixty and the sun came out; within four hours I managed to get six coats on each and used up the entire bottle of sealer. I'm converted!

Brazilian, Canubian, North Dakotan, whatever...I just wanted clean hulls. At my age, I'm happy to be riding these things...I'm kind of anal anyway.

I agree with Greg; thanks for sharing.

Wyatt


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